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You sure about that?
Yes. If you analyze the data on a per 10,000 - 100,000 basis (to account for different group sizes) it all shows reduced hospitalization and death compared to the unjabbed.

I don’t think every hospital in the state, Ron, and Trump would all lie to us about the issue but it’s a touchy topic, with a wide range of opinions & expectations, and I’m not looking to get into it with folks.
 
Yes. If you analyze the data on a per 10,000 - 100,000 basis (to account for different group sizes) it all shows reduced hospitalization and death compared to the unjabbed.

I don’t think every hospital in the state, Ron, and Trump would all lie to us about the issue but it’s a touchy topic, with a wide range of opinions & expectations, and I’m not looking to get into it with folks.
Didn’t hospitals and the cdc stop tracking vax status in hospitalizations earlier this year?!

As well, Covid being cited as cause for hospitalization or death has been commandeered because of payouts for Covid patients…if so the data is far from accurate on one side or the other.
 
Didn’t hospitals and the cdc stop tracking vax status in hospitalizations earlier this year?!

As well, Covid being cited as cause for hospitalization or death has been commandeered because of payouts for Covid patients…if so the data is far from accurate on one side or the other.
It’s a part of every patient’s health history.

Regardless of whether the CDC does Ron put together data from individual hospitals in the state that show it reduces the hospitalization & death rate thus bypassing the CDC either way.

I think we all agree that the number have been inflated for monetary purposes but that would be the same for both the vaxxed and unvaxxed to maximize money flow. A hospital admin isn’t gonna turn down extra money just because someone is “vaxxed”. “Following the money” leads to the cases and deaths on both sides being inflated (likely).
 
B*tch is a phony that has been working with commies for years




Also interesting vid on the goal through all this medical tyranny


Yeah, no

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Good force jobs back to the USA, between the supply chain issues and NOT saving a crap ton of money the corperations will come back to the US.
Even if they don’t come here cuz Puddin ups the corporate tax rate I’d rather Europe have businesses than fucking Asia.

Get those phaggots doing something worth a damn besides bitching about diesel subs and paying their bills.
 
Good force jobs back to the USA, between the supply chain issues and NOT saving a crap ton of money the corperations will come back to the US.
This is very insightful. If you want to stay in business....right now you circle the wagons.

@America 1st this may be the best year for wood and chimney sweeps since Oliver died of Typhoid. I'll make you a wood splitter and deliver
 
Even if they don’t come here cuz Puddin ups the corporate tax rate I’d rather Europe have businesses than fucking Asia.

Get those phaggots doing something worth a damn besides bitching about diesel subs and paying their bills.

I would be fine with this side of the hemisphere, Lots of willing labor in South America and Mexico and you can use rail for delivery from Mexico and Canada.
 
“The Biden administration is weighing an executive order on cryptocurrencies as part of an effort to set up a government-wide approach to the white-hot asset class, according to people familiar with the matter, Bloomberg News reports.

The proposed directive would charge federal agencies to study and offer recommendations on relevant areas of crypto -- touching on financial regulation, economic innovation and national security, said the people, who asked not to be named discussing plans that are still under consideration. “

From Bloomberg so no need for AIDS link.
 
I would be fine with this side of the hemisphere, Lots of willing labor in South America and Mexico and you can use rail for delivery from Mexico and Canada.
I’ve always said 90% of the cheap shit from Asia can be done just the same in Mexico.

Clean up North America and strengthen our allies instead of letting these shithole Asian countries get too big for their britches.
 
GTFO with Florida Hospital data. That UK link shows 1800 dead that took the Vax and 700ish dead that did not. Those are the ONLY numbers that matter. So go on and take the poison jab.
Those numbers (1800 and 700) mean nothing by themselves. You have to normalize those numbers to the size of the respective populations. This is what @America 1st is talking about with the "per 10k" or "per 100k" normalization. The Israeli data did this as part of their dashboard. For example, if 5 people from Group A died, and only 3 people from Group B died, what does that tell you? It tells you nothing until you learn that Group A had 100 people (5% deaths) and Group B had 12 people (25% deaths). This is the same. There are so many deaths among vaccinated people because there are so many vaccinated people.

It's OK to say that the vaccine has some effectiveness at reducing severe infections and death, while also believing that vaccine mandates are unconstitutional and that there issues with these vaccines regarding side effects, reactions, etc.


It's always entertaining when Democrats react so badly when the media treat them with anything but ass kissing. Democrats feel entitled to good news from the media. Most of the time, that's exactly what they get. Can you imagine how Biden would handle the media pressure that Trump had? His administration wouldn't last 3 days. So pathetic.
 
Those numbers (1800 and 700) mean nothing by themselves. You have to normalize those numbers to the size of the respective populations. This is what @America 1st is talking about with the "per 10k" or "per 100k" normalization. The Israeli data did this as part of their dashboard. For example, if 5 people from Group A died, and only 3 people from Group B died, what does that tell you? It tells you nothing until you learn that Group A had 100 people (5% deaths) and Group B had 12 people (25% deaths). This is the same. There are so many deaths among vaccinated people because there are so many vaccinated people.

It's OK to say that the vaccine has some effectiveness at reducing severe infections and death, while also believing that vaccine mandates are unconstitutional and that there issues with these vaccines regarding side effects, reactions, etc.


It's always entertaining when Democrats react so badly when the media treat them with anything but ass kissing. Democrats feel entitled to good news from the media. Most of the time, that's exactly what they get. Can you imagine how Biden would handle the media pressure that Trump had? His administration wouldn't last 3 days. So pathetic.
I'll stick to the control group for a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate. You feel free to take that experiment that reduces the already incredibly low death rate then in 3 to 5 years let me know how it's going
 
Could use some prayers coming towards my household, GoodPeople. Wife had surgery two weeks ago to remove a reoccurring polyp in her uterus, as we're pushing towards trying to have kids while fighting her endometriosis. Oncologist called back and said the tissue biopsy was precancerous. While its good we got to it, and it appears not to have spread....its still a gut punch and makes the push for kids a little more pressurized. Not how I envisioned our weekend to start.
 
Could use some prayers coming towards my household, GoodPeople. Wife had surgery two weeks ago to remove a reoccurring polyp in her uterus, as we're pushing towards trying to have kids while fighting her endometriosis. Oncologist called back and said the tissue biopsy was precancerous. While its good we got to it, and it appears not to have spread....its still a gut punch and makes the push for kids a little more pressurized. Not how I envisioned our weekend to start.
You got it.
Y'all stay strong and beat it.
 
Could use some prayers coming towards my household, GoodPeople. Wife had surgery two weeks ago to remove a reoccurring polyp in her uterus, as we're pushing towards trying to have kids while fighting her endometriosis. Oncologist called back and said the tissue biopsy was precancerous. While its good we got to it, and it appears not to have spread....its still a gut punch and makes the push for kids a little more pressurized. Not how I envisioned our weekend to start.
Stay tough brother!

The C word is scary stuff. Reach out if you need to shoot the shit or blow off steam. It helps to talk about it!
 
Do you mind if I ask what kind of heart issues? I have a friend who says his heart has been racing and fluttering a couple weeks after getting vaccinated.
To put it as simply as I understand, her upper and lower chambers are not beating in synch as they should. Her lower chamber is beating multiple times while the upper chamber skips. Everybody has this occasionally, but this is extreme. The cardiologist told her that if she was an 86 year old man who had smoked and drank all his life, he wouldn't be worried. As she's 22 and in perfect health otherwise (and until recently) he's, ahem, concerned.

In addition, her heartbeat is very slow. Ordinarily, that wouldn't concern me as she always has (both my dad and I have 'slow' heartbeats) but it's even slower than normal. She has to be careful when standing up so she doesn't pass out.

Her next appointment is in a couple of weeks. He'll determine if he's going to put her on beta blockers to try to regulate her heart or if she needs to go in a different direction.

This has been going on since April.
 
Could use some prayers coming towards my household, GoodPeople. Wife had surgery two weeks ago to remove a reoccurring polyp in her uterus, as we're pushing towards trying to have kids while fighting her endometriosis. Oncologist called back and said the tissue biopsy was precancerous. While its good we got to it, and it appears not to have spread....its still a gut punch and makes the push for kids a little more pressurized. Not how I envisioned our weekend to start.
Don't have to ask twice.

And it is good they caught it early. While it's scary (very) and I'm sure (know. Been there) her doctors will be extra vigilant, it's not that uncommon for women to have at least one or 2 precancerous diagnosis.

Y'all take some time to get unrattled and know we're keeping y'all in our prayers.
 
Sounds like you and I are very similar in age/condition/etc. The WuFlu just passed through our house a few weeks ago also. My symptoms were very similar to yours. The weirdest things for me were the trouble sleeping, frequent urination, and pressure behind my eyes. I had a pretty harsh headache for a day or two at the beginning, but once that passed, it was mostly like a head cold.

I have had a bit lower energy, but nothing terrible.

One thing I'd recommend is getting on a daily dose of aspirin if you're not on it already. The spike proteins can cause clotting and micro-clotting, so the aspirin should thin the blood and lower the risk of this happening.

Oh, for sleeping those few nights that I was struggling, I found that melatonin worked pretty good, and a couple nights, I just took a benadryl.
Yep very similar. Turns out Covid does not discriminate everybody in my house has it now. The kids have moved on passed it. My wife and I I think hopefully will be passed it in a couple of days

Mainly just weak and tired. Low low-grade fever. Some aching . But sleep has been fine

Feels just like a sinus infection. Hopefully we will be good as gold by Sunday. Thanks for your input and thoughts
 
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