• Pat Flood (@rebarcock) passed away 9/21/25. Pat played a huge role in encouraging the devolopmemt of this site and donated the very first dollar to get it started. Check the thread at the top of the board for the obituary and please feel free to pay your respects there. I am going to get all the content from that thread over to his family so they can see how many people really cared for Pat outside of what they ever knew. Pat loved to tell stories and always wanted everyone else to tell stories. I think a great way we can honor Pat is to tell a story in his thread (also pinned at the top of the board).

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You know we got some nasty shit under the water.
The United States submarine force consists of four operational classes - Ohio, Los Angeles, Seawolf, and Virginia - all of which are nuclear-powered. [1] The 14 Ohio-class SSBNsserve as the sea-based leg of the U.S. strategic triad. [2] An additional four Ohio-class submarines are configured as SSGNs that possess both strike and Special Forces insertion capabilities. The three classes of U.S. attack submarines — Virginia, Seawolf and Los Angeles - are tasked with engaging and destroying enemy vessels; supporting on-shore operations and carrier groups; and carrying out surveillance.

Capabilities at a Glance​

Total Submarines in Fleet: 66 [3]
  • Ballistic Missile Submarines (SSBNs): 14
  • Nuclear-Powered attack submarines (SSNs): 52
  • Diesel-electric attack submarines (SSKs): 0
  • Air-independent propulsion submarines (AIPs): 0

Modernization and Current Capabilities​

In its current modernization drive, the U.S. Navy hopes to add two to three Virginia-class attack submarines annually to its fleet until the year 2043. However, achieving the current goal of 48 Virginia-class submarines will likely depend onto budgetary accommodations from Congress. Vice Admiral Michael Connor, former commander of US submarines forces from 2012 to 2015, wrote to the House Armed Services Committee in 2018 that he believes the U.S. needs 66 attack submarines to keep up with the increasing military demand for their underwater capabilities. [4]
The U.S. Navy is phasing out Ohio-class SSBNs in favor of the newly designed Columbia-class. In June 2018, a Congressional report noted that 12 Columbia-class submarines will replace the 14 Ohio-class vessels currently in service as the new underwater component of the U.S. nuclear triad. Each nuclear-powered Columbia-class submarine will carry up to 16 Trident D-5 submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs). The same Congressional report noted that, based on the projected procurement schedule, the first Columbia-class submarine will be delivered by 2028 and become operational by 2031, at a total cost of $8.4 billion (excluding testing costs). The second submarine in the class will be delivered for testing in 2031, with the following ten entering the fleet at a rate of one per year from 2033 to 2042, at an average cost of $6.5 billion per boat. [5]

Ship Biographies​

Ohio-class​

14 Ohio-class SSBNs, armed with Trident II D5 SLBMs, form the sea-based leg of the U.S. strategic deterrent triad. Four of these vessels previously carried the Trident C-4 missiles, but have been retrofitted with the longer-range, more accurate D5. Assuming an average of twelve operational submarines with 24 launch tubes each and four warheads per missile, these boats carry roughly 1,152 warheads. [6] However, given that normally only eight to ten of the Ohio-class submarines are deployed at one time, and that their launch tubes will be reduced from 24 to 20 in accordance with the requirements of the New START treaty, the actual number of warheads in the field is closer to 720. [7]

Los Angeles-class​

The nuclear-powered Los Angeles-class SSN carries Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles (LACMs) and MK-48 torpedoes. The boat was primarily developed for anti-submarine warfare, but is also capable of inserting Special Forces and laying mines. The Los Angeles-class is considered the backbone of the US submarine fleet with 34 now in commission. [8] As a result of technical improvements over time, there are three variants of the Los Angeles-class. Beginning with the USS Providence in 1977, the vessels were equipped with 12 vertical launch tubes for Tomahawk missiles to complement the original Los Angeles-class’s four torpedo tubes. The USS San Juan, commissioned in 1988, was the first of the "improved" quieter Los Angeles-class submarines, fitted with an advanced BSY-1 sonar system, and capable of operating under ice. [9]

Seawolf-class​

The U.S. Navy also possesses three Seawolf-class vessels, based at Bangor Trident Base in Washington state. Originally developed to hunt Soviet SSBNs, this class of attack submarine runs significantly faster and quieter than the Los Angeles-class. [10] The boat's stealthy capabilities also make it well suited for the insertion of Special Forces. Although it does not possess a vertical launch capability, it can fire Tomahawk missiles through its torpedo tubes. [11] While the original plan was to produce as many as 29 submarines, construction costs proved too high and the end of the Cold War meant that their primary function was no longer applicable. As a result, Congress decided to terminate the program at three boats in 1995. [12]

Virginia-class​

The Virginia-class, designed by the Electric Boat Corporation of Connecticut, represents the next generation of U.S. nuclear attack submarines and a more cost-effective alternative to the Seawolf-class. With 15 vessels already in service, the Virginia-class will take over the Los Angeles-class’s operation role. The Virginia-class's ability to operate effectively in littoral waters, primarily due to its "fly-by-wire" control system, gives it an advantage over the Los Angeles-class, while its unmanned undersea vehicles (UUV) and special force delivery vehicles make it suitable for intelligence gathering and special operation forces missions. [13] Furthermore, unlike the Seawolf-class, the Virginia-class possesses vertical launch tubes for firing its land-attack Tomahawk missiles. [14] Virginia-class submarines are currently being built at an approximate rate of one per year, but their introduction rate will likely depend in part on the retirement rates of the older Los Angeles-class vessels. [15]


misses the point if they cannot be seen
Have about 20 of them surface to test some toms. Would be glorious.
 
Out of curiosity, how invested are you with these HBAR? I've been in for about 6 months, and my initial buy in was when prices were lower, then they've fluctuated up and down since that time. I think I'm in for around 10-15k right now after some bigger initial returns. What sort of projections are they looking at in terms of future valuations? Obviously, if anyone knew for sure, they'd make a fortune, but with it at $0.40/share now, what's a realistic future valuation? $1.00? $5.00?

Full Disclosure Heavily Invested - Rather Not Share The Amount Publicly

I'll Give You My Three Forecasts Conservative - Moderate - Parabolic Alt Blow-Off

My First Purchase of HBAR Was in September of 19 - I Have Acquired a Lot of My Position in the 3.5-7.0 Cent Range I've Continued to Buy in as High as .34 Cents I'm About to Sell My Stack of ADA and Buy More While It is Still Below .50 I'll Continue to Buy Even Up to $1+

Not Financial Advice Just Following a Lot of Smart People and Looking at Fundamentals

Conservative $3-3.50 Range Moderate $5-7 Range Parabolic Alt Coin Run-Up $10-12

The Real Money Will Not Be Made This Cycle The Idea is to Sell Into the Blow-Off Top at the Top of The Cycle - Then Alts Typically Lose Around 80% of Their Value in the Bitcoin/Alt Bear Market

Reinvest Then - The Real Money is Made Accumulating in the Bear Market - Then When Next Bull Market 2023+/- Hits You Will Have Generational Wealth

After the Next Bull Market We Will Have Reached Mass Adoption The Wild Gains Will Turn Into More Like We See in the Traditional Stock Market - By Then You Should Not Have to Give a Shit

Things That Will Determine How Far We Go This Bull Run:

Obviously How High Bitcoin Goes - The Alts Will Run Higher If Bitcoin Hits $125-150 K Vs Topping at $100K​
Who Become The Remaining Hedera Council Members to Fill the 39 Positions - There Are Heavily Rumored Companies Amazon, Apple, Walmart Any of Those and It's Huge - Not as Big But Would Be Very Good Visa​
CBDC Adoption CBDC or Central Bank Digital Currencies Will Be a Real Thing or a US CBCD - One Company That is Partnered With Hedera is"Emtech" - Their White Paper Specifically Mentions Hedera as One That is Considered by the FED. Hedera Goes to "Sharding" Their Transactions Per Second Will Jump to 100,000 and Beyond - It Will Take That Kind of Network Speed to Handle Every Digital Dollar Transaction - If Hedera is Chosen and No One Else Can Come Close they Would Be One of the Largest Companies in the World by Market-Cap Think About It You Are the Engine the Gateway for Every Digital Dollar Transaction - How Many Dollars Exchange Hands Per Day - It's Trillions​
What Companies Will Do Individually Using The Hedera Consensus and Hedera Token Service DL Piper is Looking to Tokenize Every Title Piece of Property in the World - Same Will Be Done With Art, Securities Etc In Business Transaction Speed Kills and Hedera is the Leader​
The Founders Themselves Say Hedera is a 100 Year Project Company - They Are About the Only Block-Chain DLT Company Going After Enterprise Adoption & Not Retail - Where is the Money Made in Business Selling to Giant Corporations or Individuals?​
**Bonus** For LAC - There is a Guy That You Have to Be Allowed on His Twitter He is Very Connected - Has to Be Very Careful Cryptic Due to NDAs - He Mentioned This Date 11/25 In a Post - My Goal is to Acquire As Much As Possible By Then​
The Above is My Opinion & Research - Not Financial Advice - Cyrpto is Risky and Very Volatile If You Have a Weak Stomach It May Not Be For You - I've had Days I've made $50K and a Few Days Later Lost Half Of It - I Believe In the Project And That the World's Largest Companies Aren't All Joining a Shit Project - Imagine How Much Due Diligence Was Done By Say Just Boeing Before They Partnered Now Multiply that Due Diligence Times Google Nomura LG & IBM Etc

Thus The Volatility Doesn't Bother Me - I'm Investing Not Trading - I Feel I Will Be Rewarded Beyond Any Other Opportunity I've Previously Had - To Me It's Like Getting in on Apple When Steve Jobs Was Apple - IMO Even at the Current Price of .395 Cents You Are Still Very Early to the Party


Sincerely,
@MortgageHorn
 
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I want to be one of these guys for Halloween but I don’t think anybody would get it.
 
Full Disclosure Heavily Invested - Rather Not Share The Amount Publicly

I'll Give You My Three Forecasts Conservative - Moderate - Parabolic Alt Blow-Off

My First Purchase of HBAR Was in September of 19 - I Have Acquired a Lot of My Position in the 3.5-7.0 Cent Range I've Continued to Buy in as High as .34 Cents I'm About to Sell My Stack of ADA and Buy More While It is Still Below .50 I'll Continue to Buy Even Up to $1+

Not Financial Advice Just Following a Lot of Smart People and Looking at Fundamentals

Conservative $3-3.50 Range Moderate $5-7 Range Parabolic Alt Coin Run-Up $10-12

The Real Money Will Not Be Made This Cycle The Idea is to Sell Into the Blow-Off Top at the Top of The Cycle - Then Alts Typically Lose Around 80% of Their Value in the Bitcoin/Alt Bear Market

Reinvest Then - The Real Money is Made Accumulating in the Bear Market - Then When Next Bull Market 2023+/- Hits You Will Have Generational Wealth

After the Next Bull Market We Will Have Reached Mass Adoption The Wild Gains Will Turn Into More Like We See in the Traditional Stock Market - By Then You Should Not Have to Give a Shit

Things That Will Determine How Far We Go This Bull Run:

Obviously How High Bitcoin Goes - The Alts Will Run Higher If Bitcoin Hits $125-150 K Vs Topping at $100K​
Who Become The Remaining Hedera Council Members to Fill the 39 Positions - There Are Heavily Rumored Companies Amazon, Apple, Walmart Any of Those and It's Huge - Not as Big But Would Be Very Good Visa​
CBDC Adoption CBDC or Central Ban Digital Currencies Will Be a Real Thing - One Company That is Partnered With Hedera is Emtech and They Are Leading the Way for the Federal Reserves "Operation New Dawn' or a US CBCD - Their White Paper Specifically Mentions Hedera as One. Hedera Goes to "Sharding" Their Transactions Per Second Will Jump to 100,000 and Beyond - It Will Take That Kind of Network Speed to Handle Every Digital Dollar Transaction - If Hedera is Chosen and No One Else Can Come Close they Would Be One of the Largest Companies in the World by Market-Cap Think About It You Are the Engine the Gateway for Every Digital Dollar Transaction - How Many Dollars Exchange Hands Per Day - It's Trillions​
What Companies Will Do Individually Using The Hedera Consensus and Hedera Token Service DL Piper is Looking to Tokenize Every Title Piece of Property in the World - Same Will Be Done With Art, Securities Etc In Business Transaction Speed Kills and Hedera is the Leader​
The Founders Themselves Say Hedera is a 100 Year Project Company - They Are About the Only Block-Chain DLT Company Going After Enterprise Adoption & Not Retail - Where is the Money Made in Business Selling to Giant Corporations or Individuals?​
**Bonus** For LAC - There is a Guy That You Have to Be Allowed on His Twitter He is Very Connected - Has to Be Very Careful Cryptic Due to NDAs - He Mentioned This Date 11/25 In a Post - My Goal is to Acquire As Much As Possible By Then​
The Above is My Opinion & Research - Not Financial Advice - Cyrpto is Risky and Very Volatile If You Have a Weak Stomach It May Not Be For You - I've had Days I've made $50K and a Few Days Later Lost Half Of It - I Believe In the Project And That the World's Largest Companies Aren't All Joining a Shit Project - Imagine How Much Due Diligence Was Done By Say Just Boeing Before They Partnered Now Multiply that Due Diligence Times Google Nomura LG & IMB Etc Thus The Volatility Doesn't Bother Me - I'm Investing Not Trading - I Feel I Will Be Rewarded Beyond Any Other Opportunity I've previously Had - To Me It's Like Getting in on Apple When Steve Jobs Was Apple - IMO Even at the Current Price of .395 Cents You Are Still Very Early to the Party


Sincerely,
@MortgageHorn
Where/how do you invest in hbar?
 
As a cub reporter in DC she was fucking half the Redskins
And Andrea Mitchell fvcked half of DC to advance her career. At least the half with poor vision.

Truth is, for all of the people in DC spouting empowering women, most of them got there by less admirable means. The truly upstanding, outstanding women are suppressed because they have a conscience and think for themselves.
 
That helps her a little. Acquaintance of mine is married to a cousin of hers. Had info on celebrities he met at her first husband's funeral. I just wanted info on Anne Curry. Only dick celebrities were Bryant Gumbal (slightly) and Rosie O'Donnell of course. Said Geraldo was friendly and genuine, Anne Curry was better in person.
Completely disagree on Bryant Gumbel being a slight dick.

He is is a horrible dick from what I can tell.
 

Welp... our SI probably passed out from ecstacy thinking of reporting me as the original terrorist. 😅

It all started with one little call to the local news a few years ago when we were the ONLY district in Ohio that did not close for weather and has steadily gone downhill (for him and the board) from there.

And I took great joy in making sure that he knew that I was the the responsible party for his 2 weeks of getting dragged every night during the weather segment.


Seriously. Tonight has been a little hard. Not because anything earth shattering happened. Just is. There's been a serious talk with God tonight and a few tears.

I pray for each and every one of you. That He may bless you with peace, solace, grace, and love.
 
And Andrea Mitchell fvcked half of DC to advance her career. At least the half with poor vision.

Truth is, for all of the people in DC spouting empowering women, most of them got there by less admirable means. The truly upstanding, outstanding women are suppressed because they have a conscience and think for themselves.
That's one ugly women.
 
Coming after Denzel now


And Katie is quite the twat
Katie Couric is a nasty, bitter woman who actually has 'internalized misogyny'.

In short, she's a nasty, manipulative, selfish bitch who was first named 'America's Sweetheart' sarcastically.

She's a Hillary Clinton psychophant. They're the same person... give or take a murder or 27.
 

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