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You can only speak anecdotally.

Correct...but my experience, and that of my coworkers and friends at other locations is all the same, and matches with the state and national numbers. Also we are not talking about a few tests. We are talking many thousands, so I think we can read something into what I have seen.

Last winter I personally only saw 2 positive flu tests. The last 10 years, probably saw many hundreds of positive flu tests every winter. Every tech I work with saw the same, and every hospital in our huge system saw the same. I have friends in other cities in other hospital systems that saw the same. We all had positive results last year until last fall/winter. Then basically nothing all winter. Then late spring the positives returned. I think this tells us the flu was gone all winter. A bit more than anecdotal IMO.
 
Had a MD client say that my telling about two relatives I've known for over 45 years who took Ivermectin and were both out and about 24 hours after being diagnosed and treated as "anecdotal".
That's because it wasn't in their "How To Be A Rockefeller MD" handbook. The drug rep didn't have anything good to say about it either. Case closed, now take your shot, it's the only way forward. haha SKOL!
 



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Well, that is how we do it. Only takes an extra few seconds to swab twice vs once, but I agree it isn't efficient. That is how the entire McLeod Health system does it though, and I know people in other hospital systems that do the same.

Obviously every hospital is not using the same tests but many are. There aren't that many options, really. Regardless, sounds like you are seeing the same thing with a different test, which seems to back up that people with the flu last winter were not just being counted as positive covids.
Not saying that at all. I think there very well could have been flu counted as covid. It's a single swab stuck in a machine that spits out a result, covid. Or RSV. Flu disappeared the second covid came out. Those RFTs sat on the shelf immediately. Mds weren't even curious to run them to see if something funky was going on. Just followed what they were supposed to do. Our administration and mds have been in lockstep with Fauci and that agenda. Pretty hard to watch considering our info emails are a continuation of what you'd prob see on cnn.
 
Totally agree on the use of DOs, especially as a primary care physician. I love my doc and have been seeing him 2x/year for 20 years. He always seeks to treat the problem, not the symptoms. The next step are supplements. The final step is prescription medication.


I bet you kept your immunity primed by being around dad. A healthy immune system requires some consistent low level exposure to various viruses.
I had been saying this since the lock downs. Disclaimer, I am no fucking doctor, but have known since I was a little shaver that a healthy immune system means exposing yourself to others and their bugs. Now, for all the certified MDs in here. Square this shit up with the lock downs and mask them up mandates. Makes no fucking sense at all. Sounds more like a diabolical plot to get people even sicker to me. I heard an awful lot from health care providers about these bullshit measures. But without some letters behind my name I am looked at as the fool. Who are the real fools now? I will hang up and listen.
 
Not saying that at all. I think there very well could have been flu counted as covid. It's a single swab stuck in a machine that spits out a result, covid. Or RSV. Flu disappeared the second covid came out. Those RFTs sat on the shelf immediately. Mds weren't even curious to run them to see if something funky was going on. Just followed what they were supposed to do. Our administration and mds have been in lockstep with Fauci and that agenda. Pretty hard to watch considering our info emails are a continuation of what you'd prob see on cnn.

Gotcha. Well our MDs & NPs continued to order tons of flus along with the covids. We ran them on different swabs and different analyzers. We stopped getting positive flus all winter, which is very odd to say the least. We turned out countless positive covid & negative flus on ED patients. Then last may or june, we magically started seeing positive flus again.
 
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I don't believe that is possible. If that were the case, those patients with false positive covid tests(you say positive because the patient had the flu) would have a positive flu test, assuming they were tested. Millions of patients were tested for the flu last winter and basically zero of those tests were positive.

I personally ran hundreds, if not thousands, of flu tests last flu season. Most of those had covid tests also. I did not see even one patient who had a positive flu test and a positive covid test. So if the flu was being counted as covid, explain that please. Explain the negative flu tests.
Just asking. What if what was labeled a Covid test was a flu test?
 
Just asking. What if what was labeled a Covid test was a flu test?

Then the "covid test" would pop positive for every patient who had the flu and was swabbed for a covid...but if that were the case, those same patients would have a positive flu test, at least in our hospital system, if one was ordered. Again, we ran thousands of flu & covids on patients all winter, I never saw a positive flu and positive covid. In fact, only saw 2 positive flus all winter.
 
I don't believe that is possible. If that were the case, those patients with false positive covid tests(you say positive because the patient had the flu) would have a positive flu test, assuming they were tested. Millions of patients were tested for the flu last winter and basically zero of those tests were positive.

I personally ran hundreds, if not thousands, of flu tests last flu season. Most of those had covid tests also. I did not see even one patient who had a positive flu test and a positive covid test. So if the flu was being counted as covid, explain that please. Explain the negative flu tests.


I wonder how many flu shots were distributed last year if any? We know have healthy proof the covid vax drives covid, I wonder if the flu shot does the same.

Just spitballing. My brother's wife stopped getting bthe flu shot because it kept guaranteeing she got the flu that year.
 
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Immunity is acquired by kids crawling around on the floors, touching stuff, and putting it into their mouths. They get it by playing outside and putting their fingers in their mouths after playing in dirt or the cat box. People get immunity by going to schools and being exposed to RSV or something else---some get sick and some don't, but all develop immunity. Same for older folks. We get immunized by whom we are around, what we touch, what we breathe in and numerous other methods.

Coronavirus has been around since Adam & Eve. It's likely most, if not all, of us have some immunity to Coronaviruses which we inhaled or ingested but never showed symptoms or it was a 1-2 day common cold. But, our immune systems went to work against the foreign invader like God intended.

We're talking a common cold virus and not something more problematic like polio or smallpox. Vaccines to those are one issue. Vaccines to Wuhan is the antithesis of polio or smallpox vaccines.
 
Immunity is acquired by kids crawling around on the floors, touching stuff, and putting it into their mouths. They get it by playing outside and putting their fingers in their mouths after playing in dirt or the cat box. People get immunity by going to schools and being exposed to RSV or something else---some get sick and some don't, but all develop immunity. Same for older folks. We get immunized by whom we are around, what we touch, what we breathe in and numerous other methods.

Coronavirus has been around since Adam & Eve. It's likely most, if not all, of us have some immunity to Coronaviruses which we inhaled or ingested but never showed symptoms or it was a 1-2 day common cold. But, our immune systems went to work against the foreign invader like God intended.

We're talking a common cold virus and not something more problematic like polio or smallpox. Vaccines to those are one issue. Vaccines to Wuhan is the antithesis of polio or smallpox vaccines.
I heard there is nothing novel about this. I am thinking you heard this as well? I wish we had a reliable health care system and a unified cohesive message. Sad times, SKOL!
 
I do not think the flu mutated to some strain that isn't picked up by our tests last winter, only to mutate back to something our tests can detect late last spring. The flu did seem to disappear last winter. The doctors I have talked with about it don't seem to know where it went. A few of them think masks and social distancing did it. I do not believe those things could cause the flu cases to go to essentially zero. Maybe a big drop, but not to zero.
I’m saying, what if they changed the tests to look for a strain they knew wouldn’t be found?
 
Gotcha. Well our MDs & NPs continued to order tons of flus along with the covids. We ran them on different swabs and different analyzers. We stopped getting positive flus all winter, which is very odd to say the least. We turned out countless positive covid & negative flus on ED patients. Then last may or june, the we magically started seeing positive flus again.

Really appreciate your continued insight on this subject the past 12-18 months. Always level headed and measured. I would say what you bring on this subject has advanced beyond anecdotal at this point given the volume of these tests you have conducted firsthand.
 
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Weird how the only tracking of vaccine safety is thru vaers. A purely voluntary and anecdotal data source. Along with testing protocols for vaxed vs unvaxed, and the ridiculous timeframes they use to categorize patients they have made it impossible for this failure of a vaccine to even have a chance of being exposed.

It’s crazy this lack real reporting on the vaccine has gone unchecked. Not to mention that doctors and anyone that is afraid to be labeled a conspiracy theorist are now conditioned to hide any downside of the vaccine.

All of these bogus studies published and most fàggit Doctors take it for face value and keep sending sick people home with acetaminophen.
 

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