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This all needs to just stop. Helps no one. Is misrepresented by both sides.

I am fully aware of the implications - my gut feel is it's just the military standing up for their own - chic or not.

Military chix I work around daily are not liabilities - quite the opposite.

They also hate this.

Let's just get on with the mission.

It has nothing to do with women, in general. It was about the military making a maternity jumpsuit. All Carlson said was that no pregnant woman should be in a combat situation and the higher ups in military lost their fucking mind. Then, they went on to attack Carlson through official military twitter profiles. That, is a dangerous precedent to allow.
 
It has nothing to do with women, in general. It was about the military making a maternity jumpsuit. All Carlson said was that no pregnant woman should be in a combat situation and the higher ups in military lost their fucking mind. Then, they went on to attack Carlson through official military twitter profiles. That, is a dangerous precedent to allow.
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Am as 'guilty' as the higher ups in making it more about military ladies I work with every day (none of whom are pregnant nor would they ever put their unborn at risk if so) rather than what you've said here - which is 100% accurate.

Easy to lose sight of the real message when defending teammates.
 
This all needs to just stop. Helps no one. Is misrepresented by both sides.

I am fully aware of the implications - my gut feel is it's just the military standing up for their own - chic or not.

Military chix I work around daily are not liabilities - quite the opposite.

They also hate this.

Let's just get on with the mission.
Then maybe the men should stop commenting for the women. Especially since they are purposely misrepresenting what Tucker Carlson said. At no time did he say women should not serve in the military. We're perfectly capable of speaking for ourselves or choosing not to. IF the focus of the administration is to better pregnancy conditions for women in service, maybe we can start with gynecological/obstetrical care. Hairstyle updates, etc isn't that big a deal in the grand scheme of things and, frankly, gets eye rolls from the women I know who are currently serving and those who did.

The point that the official Twitter account is being used to target a specific media personality based on the current administration's ideology is dangerous and flat out wrong. There's no both sides to that. Let one of these windbags push back against the administration's stance and let's see what happens.


Can't think of anything I'd rather do while pregnant than active combat.🙄 Though, now that I think back.... there were days I could have easily leveled the world single handedly. 🤣
 
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I'll say it. Don't care how many competent women some of you know. Women absolutely should not be in combat roles. When women are required to register with selective service, then you'd maybe start to have an argument. When women have the exact same physical requirements to be a marine that men do, then a reasonable discussion could at least begin.

Just like with becoming a fireman. 99%+ females cannot carry a man down a ladder, yet check the roster of many fire dept's and you'll see size 2 wearing girls who might be able to carry a decent sized shopping bag down a ladder, because courts have ruled that any test that disproportionately excludes females is invalid.

Put a good man in a life and death situation with a woman, and he's not just thinking about doing his job, he's thinking about protecting that woman. Put an attractive woman in the mix, and an entirely new layer of variables enters the fray. Letting our military become a social experiment is a national disaster we will dearly pay for one day.
 
Whatever speech is legal for us to use in favor of or against one another MUST be equally legal for us to use in favor of or against the representatives of the government that derives its authority from the Constitution we approved.
Go up to a black member of Congress and call them the N-word and see how long you remain unarrested. Yet, those same words are hurled at policemen (we saw numerous example this past summer) with impunity. Free speech isn't free or equitable. If you can't yell that at a Congressman you shouldn't be able to yell it at a policeman.
 
I was raised by a cop. He was shot in the line of duty, twice. I have the utmost respect for what you guy have to deal with. He often told me of times that people interfering with a situation caused that situation to spiral out of control. I can't understand why people can't just mind their own business and let the police do their job.
And when the police arrive at a scene they are usually the least informed about the situation yet are asked to make life and death decisions based on limited and many times unreliable information.
 
This all needs to just stop. Helps no one. Is misrepresented by both sides.

I am fully aware of the implications - my gut feel is it's just the military standing up for their own - chic or not.

Military chix I work around daily are not liabilities - quite the opposite.

They also hate this.

Let's just get on with the mission.
The military cannot take political sides. But under the Biden Admin, they are doing so. This is not a minor issue.
 
I'll say it. Don't care how many competent women some of you know. Women absolutely should not be in combat roles. When women are required to register with selective service, then you'd maybe start to have an argument. When women have the exact same physical requirements to be a marine that men do, then a reasonable discussion could at least begin.

Just like with becoming a fireman. 99%+ females cannot carry a man down a ladder, yet check the roster of many fire dept's and you'll see size 2 wearing girls who might be able to carry a decent sized shopping bag down a ladder, because courts have ruled that any test that disproportionately excludes females is invalid.

Put a good man in a life and death situation with a woman, and he's not just thinking about doing his job, he's thinking about protecting that woman. Put an attractive woman in the mix, and an entirely new layer of variables enters the fray. Letting our military become a social experiment is a national disaster we will dearly pay for one day.
Hard to argue with any of that. Nicely stated. Especially the part about attractiveness.

The ones I know are pilots. Good friends and pilots first, but unmistakably beautiful women a close second.

Will ponder that thought a bit.
 
Go up to a black member of Congress and call them the N-word and see how long you remain unarrested. Yet, those same words are hurled at policemen (we saw numerous example this past summer) with impunity. Free speech isn't free or equitable. If you can't yell that at a Congressman you shouldn't be able to yell it at a policeman.

I've never yelled any name at anybody in my life, and I think it's shameful when people do that. Nevertheless, there is only one class of citizen in this country. There's not a First Amendment and a Firstest Amendment that apply more or less in favor depending on the recipient of the speech.

As to your specific example, let's back off the N-word ledge there. Is it legal to insult a member of Congress to their face? To my knowledge, yes. Should it be? If it's legal for us to insult one another, which it is, then it should be legal to do the same to them. They = us; there is no single degree of difference.

Morally or ethically, does insulting a member of Congress reflect poorly on the insulter? Depending on the context, probably. The example you used always ought to reflect very poorly on the name-caller. Heck, the insults we (myself included) throw around on this board are often in very poor form and something that reflects worse on us than on our intended target of ridicule.

Now, back to the police - I have no interest whatsoever in criminalizing free speech. That is the final slippery slope down which the Left already has us sliding. People assembling to protest and not participating in any unlawful activity ought to be able to do so and exercise their free speech.

We may just continue to disagree about this, which is fine. I just have a strong dislike for making carve-outs from our freedoms which are codified in the Constitution. It sets precedent for the next government and the one after that, which is that carving out exceptions and limiting freedom, even bit by bit, is OK. Government rarely, if ever, surrenders its own power, cuts its own intrusions into people's lives, or enhances freedom once in power. Limiting our freedom now only leads to continued and increased limits of freedom later.

This proposed law in Kentucky may work out for them; however, I fear it sets the stage for the next limitation, and the next one.
 
Not all speech is free now. One cannot yell Fire in a movie theater. There are some times speech is limited. As we saw all last summer, one person gets into the face of a policeman and starts going off. Without a response, others join in. Then it becomes poking, pushing and then throwing objects and even shots being fired and these were deemed "peaceful protests". Anarchy is the result which we all saw.
 
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