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You are a good dude and contributor, but we aren't judging Joel Osteen.

We are discerning.

The Prosperity Gospel he teaches is not Biblical. It completely ignores the reality of following Jesus and "take up your CROSS and follow me." It ignores all of Jesus' teaching to the Pharisees. Now that doesn't mean God won't use that in very powerful ways. Other shepherds who failed, including Swaggart, Baker, MacDonald, Noble, to Driscoll, are very flawed men who God used to lead people to Christ. Just as he did with Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Peter, and Paul.

Believers should expect and will be persecuted. God will bless that in ways we wont' understand. Suffering and persecution go hand-in-hand with being a Christian. Yes, small groups, fellowship, time in the Word are the bread, but a shepherd that is not preaching the entire Word of God is misleading his sheep. One might say, a wolf in sheep's clothing.

I believe Matthew 7:15 refers to that explicitly.

So was it @Croot_Lord or @Croot_Overlord that merged the Joel Osteen thread with Dancing LAC? That's the kind of sabotage that led the migration from Rivals.
 
I'm not going to argue with you. How many ways are their to Heaven? Joel says many and that is a flat out lie. Do you believe that also? You know nothing about me but you are judging my walk with Christ. So tell me do you believe they are many ways to Heaven?


Im judging what you say and how you present it. One way to heaven through Jesus Christ. You obviously have a skewed idea of how Christ intended the church to be, and an Idea of Christ teachings. Your judging a man and knowing no more about him then I do you or you do me. I know personally people that have served under Joel and have worked in his business office. They are the epitome of the reflection of Christ. Its crazy to me people pretend to know another mans relationship with Christ. If Joel was bad it would be exposed. Especially a lot more then what people think he should talk like and talk about on Sunday in the pulpit. So much more.
 
That's the kind of sabotage that led the migration from Rivals.
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So was it @Croot_Lord or @Croot_Overlord that merged the Joel Osteen thread with Dancing LAC? That's the kind of sabotage that led the migration from Rivals.
That was me. It was not sabotage. I screwed up trying to restructure the board

Edit: Oh there was not Joel Olsteen thread that was merged into this. I merged some other stuff a few days back. The Osteen convo started here organically
 
I keep watching this page, hoping something comes up. Did the judge in the Maxwell hearing on 1/19 not order for more things to be unsealed in one week's time? Last updates are from yesterday, two letters basically saying "no, please don't make us unseal" I think. Legal minds, please correct me if needed.

 
Win Souls is the main thing outside of loving Jesus. Joel has made his services very "seeker Friendly", which is tough for Baptist preachers and others to take. He has made it to where his services is for the lost souls to come with opportunity to be saved for Christ. Not to be condemned for your sin. his sunday services are very structured and short and to the point. Church isnt just a sunday service where the preacher/pastor tells you how you should live and bla bla bla. Church is a family where all thigs of Christ flow though. Every response and all the people attaching Joel are making Church and sunday service all about the pastors message on Sunday. Church is your family and a community of life and doing life together. the sunday messages are a tiny part of that. Its like saying the only version of the bible you can read in the King James. Not really but for most churches theres sunday church and the preachers talks for an Hour then you go home with a littl e more here and there. Joels church are so much more involved with each others lives. Through grups and community dealings. most of the feeding on the word is done through groups and smaller settings after somebody has felt comfortable. Imagine a sinful person that is so ashamed of their life style for whatever reason walking in to a sunday services where the Baptist pastor is crushing sinful people and shaming them. or just going on and on and on. Chances are they will be shamed away. and no chance to get involved. Joel sets an atmosphere for the lost and sinful to feel welcomed and loved etc. then they want to get involved and be part and seek Christ themselves. Most are living on the Snday message like thats what God wants. ITs the opposite of what he wants. He wants us to seek Him with all of our heart mid and soul and when we do we find Him. He wants us to be prosperous. You think Jesus was sent for us to be poor? you can attach any scripture to make it sound anything you want. Its 100% ok for a Man of God to be RICH!! Its silly to think otherwise. A son or daughter of the most high not be RICH and not be known it to be is silly. Living humble is completely different. Humble spirit. Joel is a very Humble loving person that lives for Jesus. Im not proof reading what I posted so sorry. Church is at all based on what is said in the pulpit. That is just a piece of it. Sundays are to reach the lost not the saved. He reaches the lost and gives them opportunity to WANT to be saved and involved.
Romans 3:23
Romans 6:23
Proverbs 28:13
Luke 13:3

All men are sinners. The wages of sin is death. You must acknowledge your sin and repent or you will likewise perish. Sin cannot be ignored. The Bible is very clear on all of this. the good news is that salvation is freely given and all you have to do is accept it.

You could choose to look at this in a negative light but I just can’t see it that way. It’s overwhelmingly positive.

I don’t know anything at all about Joel iOsteen. Are you the guy that posted something from city church in Tallahassee a while back?
 
That was me. It was not sabotage. I screwed up trying to restructure the board

Edit: Oh there was not Joel Olsteen thread that was merged into this. I merged some other stuff a few days back. The Osteen convo started here organically
No, I made the mistake of posting a Monday meme telling everyone to have a good day and it just so happened to be by Joel Olsteen. Someone decided they didn't like who was the author and sabotaged the whole message.
 
False teaching as in? You live for sundays and what your pastor/preacher says drabbing on for an hour. Correct? Wonder what Jesus said to Mary M? You are a sinner and you should repent from your sins and you are bad. Bla bla bla. Nope He loved her showed her grace and told her about the goodness then said sin no more. Spent less time on the "sin" then anything else. Flase Teaching lol. weak
You are bla bla blaing exactly what the Bible specifically says about sin and salvation.
 
I don’t post often and don’t pick fights. I don’t disagree with much of what you said, but sincerely and from the very bottom of my happy heart, fuck you.

Yep, this...All of this! I'm still playing catch up, so forgive me! Tried to stay unplugged, as much as possible, and enjoy my time with my wife this past weekend. Luckily, I had a migraine all night and morning so I'm playing catch up today. While I have always been a skeptical believer of the plan, I wasn't searching for that because I'm unhappy and lost! I chose to believe in it because I want to believe the best in all people and have a better USA for my children(and their children). I've come a long way in life and don't have a fraction if what the majority of yall have. But I am still extremely happy with my life. I went from 12(the beginning of my anxiety and depression) to ~30 wandering around aimlessly. Battling every demon that I could find...alcohol/drugs/random hookups/shit job to shit job/etc etc! I have a checkered past, nothing felonious though...DUI/DUS/minor possession/Marijuana possession(s). While I still enjoy the self-medication in the form of vaping oils(sorry law enforcement on here), I rarely drink alcohol because I had to come to the harsh realization of who I become when I drink. The German and Scotch-Irish in me make a dangerous person on the sauce. Not that I get violent but because I don't get sick, no matter the amount, but I never really "appreciate" how "well" I am able to handle the booze. I don't want to get on a tangent about it all, always willing to share any part of my past, because that isn't the point of this. The point of this, skeptical believer of Q and all, is that I was happy before Q and happy after Q! I am 38 and have a wife, whom I love deeply. She is an incredible teacher and Patriot who loves her students and our children. I start my 5th year of working for my current employer on Feb 4th! I know I am "just a plumber", and haven't enjoyed the success of the majority of yall, but it means something to me...From Rock Bottom to steady! We have a solid home in a solid neighborhood. We have 2 amazing children...A 6 year old boy, who battled all the odds as a preemie, who is incredible! Kid is ridiculously smart, mature and one amazing athlete that loves and cares like no one! Our family was completed 2.5 years ago with the birth of our beautiful and smart daughter! I may have believed in the majority of Q and the plan but it had NOTHING to do with my happiness!

So, not so kindly, got fuck yourself with rusty barbed wire...You fucking sack of shit!

Sincerely,
Ronnie Dobbs
 
Doesn’t matter anymore, they just needed to win this election. Now they can flood the country with illegals and grant them citizenship. That in combination with MIV means millions of new votes. They will flip TX before the 2028 or 2032 at the latest and that closes any path for normalcy to return to this country.

I still contend this plan continues to back fire and that is why their cheating becomes more and more obvious. As someone who's spent 12+ years in the construction industry, most of the Hispanics I've ever encountered are EXTREMELY conservative and most I knew supported Trump bigly!
 
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