Master Thread Dance Your Cares Away/Fraggle/Law Abiding Citizens

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It can’t be both. Either God’s authority allows government or it doesn’t.

Jesus didn’t stop the guards at Gethsemane… His will, not ours.
He was accurate in saying ordinary people suffer because of evil rulers.

You are accurate when you cite Scripture in how we are to respond to authority.

I pray for the President regularly, and will obey laws to the best of my ability, unless those laws contradict the commands of God.
 
Both of what you say is accurate, and biblical.
Exactly. It was interesting to watch play out.

We will be corrected for the failure of our leaders. That is usually because we have drifted from God in our culture and our leaders reflect that.

All of our leaders are also in those positions because of God's permission.

The one thing about Romans 13 that is often missed, and was left out of the article linked, is the context for Paul's letter. He was writing it to the Roman church and knew that it was highly likely the contents of the letter would be read by Caesar and his supporters. Through that context, paining the picture that Christians are to obey their leaders, not try to overthrow them, is important. In essence, Christians are to be the best citizens, not the most unruly. Good sermon on the subject by John MacArthur:



At the same time, the government's authority does not extend to violating God's law. At that time, we are not only expected, but called, to disobey government. Essentially, the government cannot direct you to sin.
 
It can’t be both. Either God’s authority allows government or it doesn’t.

Jesus didn’t stop the guards at Gethsemane… His will, not ours.
Of course God's authority allows government. Everything present on planet earth right now was allowed by God, even if it was not his will for it to happen.

Government is God's will. World government - apart from the one that will be established under Jesus - is not his will. He split the world up at Babel the last time the world was united as one, and when the next world government forms, he'll destroy it after 42 months.

Someone breaks in your house, are you going to protect your family? We're told to care for our own, to help the poor, to care for widows. If you're a slave to a communist government, you can do none of the above. And if you can do none of the above, it will be because when there was opportunity to act, we refused. If someone breaks into your house, in super slow motion, breaking in over the course of years, are you going to deal with them? Because that's what we're living right now. A slow, methodical, decades-long takeover of our lives.

If Americans don't have the balls to stand up and fight, we're going to lose our country. Just because some of the enemy are within our borders makes the fight little different from fighting Hitler, King George, or any other despotic threat. Yes, if this is the end of this age, we're going to lose, or rather, we won't be able to put down the globalist threat. The beast will have his day, and all the guns in the world can't change that. But what if it is not that time? It's incumbent on us to fight the fight spiritually and physically, as long and as hard as we can.
 
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Exactly. It was interesting to watch play out.

We will be corrected for the failure of our leaders. That is usually because we have drifted from God in our culture and our leaders reflect that.

All of our leaders are also in those positions because of God's permission.

The one thing about Romans 13 that is often missed, and was left out of the article linked, is the context for Paul's letter. He was writing it to the Roman church and knew that it was highly likely the contents of the letter would be read by Caesar and his supporters. Through that context, paining the picture that Christians are to obey their leaders, not try to overthrow them, is important. In essence, Christians are to be the best citizens, not the most unruly. Good sermon on the subject by John MacArthur:



At the same time, the government's authority does not extend to violating God's law. At that time, we are not only expected, but called, to disobey government. Essentially, the government cannot direct you to sin.


So which is it? Should we obey our government that believes it is ok to kill innocent babies and believe God is mistaken in that women were meant to be men and vice versa?
 
Am I the only person that hasn't been sick from the Rona yet?

I'm around people all of the time -- nothing.

My wife and son got sick from it this week. Took the test, I'm negative -- still nothing.

I'm beginning to think that my X-Men mutant power is that I'm impervious to COVID.
Maybe you dont have DNA - you have USA!
 

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