Conference Realignment Thread

[Juro]

Sounds like Kansas to the B1G.

My prediction:

The rest of the Big 12 gets swallowed up by PAC and AAC (sorry KSU and TCU). B1G makes a play on a few PAC schools. ND pretty much joins ACC. Not sure on WVU.

 

[Rebarcock.]

Sounds like Kansas to the B1G.

My prediction:

The rest of the Big 12 gets swallowed up by PAC and AAC (sorry KSU and TCU). B1G makes a play on a few PAC schools. ND pretty much joins ACC. Not sure on WVU.

Tag the kweers in fraqqle too. Shit was making me insane

 

[LVRebel]

I'm in over here. Haven't had much to contribute as I'm a UNLV fan, and they've pretty much sucked at basketball the past 5 years with coaching changes, and football has sucked forever.

However, we've built amazing facilities here the past few years, and now play our home football games at Allegiant Stadium (where the Raiders play), and basketball is still pretty good facilities. Now just need to show some results if there's any chance to join another conference during the realignment.

 

[Sgfeer]

If TV sets view are old World thinking....conferences believing schools like BC/Rutgers/Maryland bring in viewings in their geographic areas and finding out they were wrong. If Social media is the new TV sets, here you go.


What is really generates value to a conference is who actually watches and interacts with their team. Read: who will go to games and actually purchase streaming packages

 

[Chris Farley]

According to @Jayhox, Kansas is a top 30 athletic program

 

[Juro]

According to @Jayhox, Kansas is a top 30 athletic program

Their basketball program is keeping them up there. Stretch to say top 30 though.

Hopefully it's a situation where the extra money from the TV contract gets them to a better football program over time.

We'll see though.

 

[AmericanViking]

Tag the kweers in fraqqle too. Shit was making me insane

You take your fingers off the keyboard when you’re typing @ me!!!

 

[Sgfeer]

You take your fingers off the keyboard when you’re typing @ me!!!

 

[AmericanViking]

According to @Jayhox, Kansas is a top 30 athletic program

I thought he said revenue?

 

[BigBucnNole]

If TV sets view are old World thinking....conferences believing schools like BC/Rutgers/Maryland bring in viewings in their geographic areas and finding out they were wrong. If Social media is the new TV sets, here you go.


What is really generates value to a conference is who actually watches and interacts with their team. Read: who will go to games and actually purchase streaming packages

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I think that way of thinking stems from a bunch of idiot sports journalist feeding off cable companies pushing for larger dollar contracts.

In no way shape or form is adding someone in a New York market more profitable than adding someone in Florida market with more viewers. It’s all about actual eye balls.

 

[AmericanViking]

If TV sets view are old World thinking....conferences believing schools like BC/Rutgers/Maryland bring in viewings in their geographic areas and finding out they were wrong. If Social media is the new TV sets, here you go.


What is really generates value to a conference is who actually watches and interacts with their team. Read: who will go to games and actually purchase streaming packages

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Dang. KU at 62 while ISU and OSU are 29 & 33. Did not expect that

 

[Sgfeer]

Dang. KU at 62 while ISU and OSU are 29 & 33. Did not expect that

And WVU @16

 

[Rebarcock.]

The best fans in America are ready in the drivers seat.
SEC
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[Jayhox]

According to @Jayhox, Kansas is a top 30 athletic program

Top 30 in revenue, Fatty.

 

[BigBucnNole]

Top 30 in revenue, Fatty.

Network inefficiencies.

 

[Jayhox]

If TV sets view are old World thinking....conferences believing schools like BC/Rutgers/Maryland bring in viewings in their geographic areas and finding out they were wrong. If Social media is the new TV sets, here you go.


What is really generates value to a conference is who actually watches and interacts with their team. Read: who will go to games and actually purchase streaming packages

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You are basing a value argument on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook interactions? Really?

 

[Jayhox]

Dang. KU at 62 while ISU and OSU are 29 & 33. Did not expect that

Those are social media interactions. LOL

 

[Jayhox]

Network inefficiencies.

Give KU a B1G member revenue bump and it would likely be top 20.

 

[AmericanViking]

Those are social media interactions. LOL

Thought it was streaming

 

[Emmo496]

Give KU a B1G member revenue bump and it would likely be top 20.

What are the thoughts on the FIVE Level 1 infractions against BBall being investigated right now by the NCAA? Not to mention the lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility they added on.
I am afraid that if Kansas gets hit with sanctions then Self will jump ship (NBA) like he did with Illinois.

 

[BigBucnNole]

Give KU a B1G member revenue bump and it would likely be top 20.

Yea, for sure. You'll leech even more money from high dollar earning programs.

 

[Juro]

What are the thoughts on the FIVE Level 1 infractions against BBall being investigated right now by the NCAA? Not to mention the lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility they added on.
I am afraid that if Kansas gets hit with sanctions then Self will jump ship (NBA) like he did with Illinois.

Obviously B1G is okay with it. Remember, this conference has all had its shady crap with their athletic programs.

 

[Emmo496]

Obviously B1G is okay with it. Remember, this conference has all had its shady crap with their athletic programs.

So when is this KU to B1G going to be announced?

 

[Sgfeer]

You are basing a value argument on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook interactions? Really?

Just one article on new Stats. Make what you will of it. Any Sports financial show you watch all say unanimously streaming is the future. Is there a correlation between the sites listed and streaming hits is to be determined.

 

[AmericanViking]

So when is this KU to B1G going to be announced?

Rumor I saw was they’d let B12 know Friday they won’t renew the GOR

 

[Juro]

So when is this KU to B1G going to be announced?

I've heard everything from this week to this Friday specifically to the next few weeks.

I'm really surprised it's moving this fast. Would not surprise me if the talks started earlier before Texas/OU talks with SEC leaked.

 

[Jayhox]

What are the thoughts on the FIVE Level 1 infractions against BBall being investigated right now by the NCAA? Not to mention the lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility they added on.
I am afraid that if Kansas gets hit with sanctions then Self will jump ship (NBA) like he did with Illinois.

I think if we get busted for what Adidas reps did, then every school in the country better watch out. They have based their infractions on Adidas being a KU booster. Part of what we are being scrutinized for is the Zion Williamson recruitment. There is a communication indicating Zion’s family’s demands. He ended up at Duke. Nike may be better at the game, but they are in the game. Self has reportedly said in private that if he goes down for shoe company activities he’s taking everyone down with him for doing the same thing.

 

[thenick_ttu]

If TV sets view are old World thinking....conferences believing schools like BC/Rutgers/Maryland bring in viewings in their geographic areas and finding out they were wrong. If Social media is the new TV sets, here you go.


What is really generates value to a conference is who actually watches and interacts with their team. Read: who will go to games and actually purchase streaming packages

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wow Texas A&M is way lower than expected. Those baby dicks get a raging hard on anytime aggy is mentioned. I figured they’d be top 5 in something like this.

 

[Jayhox]

Yea, for sure. You'll leech even more money from high dollar earning programs.

When you decide to understand revenue components, let me know so we can have an intelligence discussion. We have better 3rd tier revenue than OU and only trail UT because of the Longhorn Network. Our streaming revenues were far above expectations which will be huge to those who know how future revenues will be generated.

 

[AmericanViking]

I've heard everything from this week to this Friday specifically to the next few weeks.

I'm really surprised it's moving this fast. Would not surprise me if the talks started earlier before Texas/OU talks with SEC leaked.

I’ve read 2-3 months before and that OSU and ISU tried to give a heads up about UT/UT-N and Bowlsby and team blew it off like it was fake news.

 

[BigBucnNole]

When you decide to understand revenue components, let me know so we can have an intelligence discussion. We have better 3rd tier revenue than OU and only trail UT because of the Longhorn Network. Our streaming revenues were far above expectations which will be huge to those who know how future revenues will be generated.

You know what I can't wait to watch this year? Kansas football... exciting stuff. Can you imagine the ratings with Kansas v. Illinois in the Big 10???

 

[Jayhox]

You know what I can't wait to watch this year? Kansas football... exciting stuff. Can you imagine the ratings with Kansas v. Illinois in the Big 10???

How about when we play in basketball?

 

[AmericanViking]

You know what I can't wait to watch this year? Kansas football... exciting stuff. Can you imagine the ratings with Kansas v. Illinois in the Big 10???

I think November prime time night games in Stillwater for teams like OSU, UM, Wisky, etc would draw great ratings. Especially since both teams would most likely be ranked. And we can get a rivalry going with Nebraska.

 

[BigBucnNole]

How about when we play in basketball?

lol, nobody gives a shit about basketball

 

[Jayhox]

lol, nobody gives a shit about basketball

Doesn’t look like Florida State gives much of a shit about football lately, either. If only you had Ga Tech on the schedule again this year to try and avenge last year’s loss. I bet that would garner a national audience.

 

[Juro]

So a little on what I know. A lot of it comes through a separate Husker board outside of Rivals. Been there for 8 months now.

Anyway, B1G formed a committee early 2021. Wanted them to look at options on expanding. Don't know anything else besides that.

OU and Texas did want out of the Big 12. From what I gathered, they did put feelers out to both B1G and SEC. B1G school officials already had formed a no on OU, but yes to Texas. B1G administration, including Warren, can only do so much before the school Presidents decide. If they're not feeling it, it won't probably happen. SEC said yes to both and here we are.

My best guess is after that, the committee started to look at all options for expansion because they knew SEC would be on the move.

 

[BigBucnNole]

Doesn’t look like Florida State gives much of a shit about football lately, either. If only you had Ga Tech on the schedule again this year to try and avenge last year’s loss. I bet that would garner a national audience.

Sick burn bruh.

 

[Emmo496]

So a little on what I know. A lot of it comes through a separate Husker board outside of Rivals. Been there for 8 months now.

Anyway, B1G formed a committee early 2021. Wanted them to look at options on expanding. Don't know anything else besides that.

OU and Texas did want out of the Big 12. From what I gathered, they did put feelers out to both B1G and SEC. B1G school officials already had formed a no on OU, but yes to Texas. B1G administration, including Warren, can only do so much before the school Presidents decide. If they're not feeling it, it won't probably happen. SEC said yes to both and here we are.

My best guess is after that, the committee started to look at all options for expansion because they knew SEC would be on the move.

Not breaking balls, and I believe you. I think the dynamic has shifted somewhat away from the B1G having to take AAU schools. I think there's too much TV $$$ at stake, and I think this is the big football reset. The B1G can't afford to take another Maryland or Rutgers who bring nothing to the table. Not to mention, the AAU schools will still get their research $$$.

That being said, your guess is as good as mine about what the Presidents will decide. I would think that they would have 2 schools lined up to make the move thought, not just 1.

 

[Emmo496]

I think if we get busted for what Adidas reps did, then every school in the country better watch out. They have based their infractions on Adidas being a KU booster. Part of what we are being scrutinized for is the Zion Williamson recruitment. There is a communication indicating Zion’s family’s demands. He ended up at Duke. Nike may be better at the game, but they are in the game. Self has reportedly said in private that if he goes down for shoe company activities he’s taking everyone down with him for doing the same thing.

AAU basketball has been a funnel for off-the-books benefits forever. Everyone knows that, yet nothing is done about it. OSU got caught up in it as well and it almost led to our post-season ban because 1 coach was doing shady shit and was caught in the FBI sting. It was proven that no one else inside the BBall program knew what was going on because it was before Coach Boynton's time as HC.

 

[Juro]

Not breaking balls, and I believe you. I think the dynamic has shifted somewhat away from the B1G having to take AAU schools. I think there's too much TV $$$ at stake, and I think this is the big football reset. The B1G can't afford to take another Maryland or Rutgers who bring nothing to the table. Not to mention, the AAU schools will still get their research $$$.

That being said, your guess is as good as mine about what the Presidents will decide. I would think that they would have 2 schools lined up to make the move thought, not just 1.

For some reason my Rivals membership was canceled by me but I still have access to the Husker Rivals. This guy posted some good cliffs of a radio talk and I'll post it here below.

• Ten years ago, ESPN put a lot of money into keep the rest of the Big Twelve together
  • Now, ESPN is quiet because they own the SEC rights
  • ESPN is worried about keeping their rights, need more money
  • So, they want to turn the SEC into a monster to get $$$
• If the Big Ten is thinking the SEC is seeking dominance, it's a different approach
  • The NCAA could be effectively dead
  • After the SEC agreed to the new playoff format, they went out and grabbed OU and Texas, trying to get 5-6 teams into the new format every year
  • If the Big Ten thinks this is a power grab to essentially replace the NCAA, it's a different ball game
  • The BIG may use their AAU power to offset some things SEC is doing (more on that later)
• Big picture reads on this:
  • Appalling they would do this (In host's opinion)
  • This is their Ragnarok (cataclysmic destruction of the cosmos); ruins great traditions and many teams
  • Super-conferences drive smaller teams playing the big boys for $$$
  • The new lineup becomes NFL-light
  • Current arrangement is collapsing with streaming and such
  • The markets don't matter anymore
  • ESPN is trying to avoid that by getting a corner on the national market
• More realignment talk
  • Rivals guy says ACC trying to get Penn State to come to ACC
  • Lady who writes for The Athletic says that other conferences may no longer give their seal of approval to expanded playoff system (I believe they indicated Alvarez was behind that move)
  • Blows up SEC plan
  • As it stands under the new proposal, SEC would get 5-6 teams in the playoff each year
  • Can the new plan, "Let them feast on each other", SEC then just gets two teams and ruins their plans (I love this!)
  • Michigan side: Big Ten will not expand w/o someone on the AAU level. Why?
    • For all the money on the table for sports, AAU research money is just crazy big
    • Big Ten wants to continue this
    • May raid ACC: No. Car., Duke, Virginia, Ga. Tech
    • Virginia and Ga. Tech are definitely interested
• Reflections on the last group of facts reported
  • Probably best to keep playoff at four teams and let SEC implode on itself, just get maybe two in a year; keeps more balance
  • SEC commish and Big 12 commish working together to expand while Sankey (SEC) was all the while looking to raid the Big 12 (yeesh)
  • Sankey (SEC) used to be against expansion, then recently changed...wink, wink
  • All other conferences have to give their blessing to expand
  • PSU potentially leaving may not be crazy
    • PSU has big stadium, many fans
    • In a conference with Michigan and OSU
    • If ACC can keep Clemson and FSU, PSU may do it
    • If Clemson/FSU leave, ACC will probably blow up
• AAU talk
  • Every team in Ivy League, every team in BIG but NU (been discussed as to why), nine schools in Pac 12, ND, four schools in ACC.
  • Why not get the rest of the Big 12? Presidents still rule Big Ten.
  • TCU and Baylor rated pretty high, but they are private, religious schools, not AAU related
  • Says ND belongs to AAU (I had heard otherwise)
  • Kansas is not a great FB school (Terrible)
• Hosts thinks it might be good to stand pat and keep the current playoff system
• If BIG could lure Virginia, No. Car., Duke, and Ga Tech, one host suggests then SEC goes after Clemson, Miami and FSU. Now what? NC State? Wake?
• What happens to successful P 5 teams? Pac Ten Commish recently said they had to prioritize football revenue. Ugh. Then what about a team like Washington State? Purdue? How much $$$ do they generate?
• If those programs fail, hurts kids, scholarships. Consolidation hurts opportunities, they feel
• What does Big Ten do next? Do they think SEC is trying to take over college FB? If they don't, they'll stand pat and try to get a scheduling alliance with someone like Pac 12.
• If concerned about SEC power move, they'll go big.

27 minute mark: Rest of the talk involved Big Ten's media days and conference football and I'm tired of writing.