• Pat Flood (@rebarcock) passed away 9/21/25. Pat played a huge role in encouraging the devolopmemt of this site and donated the very first dollar to get it started. Check the thread at the top of the board for the obituary and please feel free to pay your respects there. I am going to get all the content from that thread over to his family so they can see how many people really cared for Pat outside of what they ever knew. Pat loved to tell stories and always wanted everyone else to tell stories. I think a great way we can honor Pat is to tell a story in his thread (also pinned at the top of the board).

CBO weights in on Build Back Better bill

Is there not a sarcastic "gasp" emoji?
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Debt and deficit are meaningless. Modern monetary theory says you can just print
Ben Franklin understood MMT:

“Franklin argued that a well-run paper currency would ultimately benefit everyone: An adequate money supply lowers interest rates, encourages trade, creates more demand and raises the value of the colony’s products. He insisted that “labouring and Handicrafts Men (which are the chief Strength and Support of a People)” would move to Pennsylvania and those who were present would stay. Otherwise, skilled workers would seek “entertainment and Employment in other Places, where they can be better paid.”

Franklin simply made a pragmatic case: Paper money would solve the particular problem at hand. But what came next was his great revelation. How could paper currency ever be “real” money? Franklin’s answer was to recognize that money itself was simply a medium of exchange, a measure of value rather than its storehouse.”


Paper currency is as American as apple pie.
 
$36.7 billion annually for a $1.5 trillion spending bill isn't really anything. It's virtually budget neutral. Probably have some state infrastructure pull back when they can use fed funds in place of state.

I'm curious to see what's going to happen when States have all the money. Florida's reserve fund is over 7 billion right now, which is bat shit insane. Not that it's easy to get ahold of, nor would you necessarily want to, it is "talk back" money.

Edit: just pulled New York State's reserves and they are at $2.5 billion. Also high.
 
$36.7 billion annually for a $1.5 trillion spending bill isn't really anything. It's virtually budget neutral. Probably have some state infrastructure pull back when they can use fed funds in place of state.

I'm curious to see what's going to happen when States have all the money. Florida's reserve fund is over 7 billion right now, which is bat shit insane. Not that it's easy to get ahold of, nor would you necessarily want to, it is "talk back" money.

Edit: just pulled New York State's reserves and they are at $2.5 billion. Also high.
What is SF reserve? Just curious.
 

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