TheResister
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So funny I busted a gut.
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So funny I busted a gut.
Why? You are a Fed Boi faggot. So you laughed at yourself?
weaponoffreedom
Elite
1.) I use the AK rifle for hunting, when I used to hunt, great pig gun, great anything but bird gun really.
2.) the M107 and M249s on the table are ridiculously expensive and are not likely in vast numbers. Both are north of $13k
3.) The "in the 1930's" case he is referrring to is US v. Miller, 1939. Whereas it was found that citizens had a right to bear military firearms specifically, it was a win for gun owners, and a loss for Miller, as he was in possession of a weapon that was not or would not be used in the military: a short barrel shotgun.
I love how the guy on the left is "mansplaining" to the girl in the middle, but he has no idea WTF he is talking about.
2.) the M107 and M249s on the table are ridiculously expensive and are not likely in vast numbers. Both are north of $13k
3.) The "in the 1930's" case he is referrring to is US v. Miller, 1939. Whereas it was found that citizens had a right to bear military firearms specifically, it was a win for gun owners, and a loss for Miller, as he was in possession of a weapon that was not or would not be used in the military: a short barrel shotgun.
I love how the guy on the left is "mansplaining" to the girl in the middle, but he has no idea WTF he is talking about.
MechaJutaro
Poster
Reminds me a line from Louie Diaz's autobiography, "Dancing With The Devil": "Most ATF cases epitomize the phrase "Don't make a federal case out of it"
TheResister
Elite
This is just an FYI. In the Miller case, he died before the case was heard in the United States Supreme Court. Had he been alive and an attorney made an argument before the court, the military did, in fact, use short barreled shotguns going back to late 1800s to early 1900s, decades before the Miller decision. Trench guns were short barreled shotguns and saw quite a bit of service... a point not brought to the Court's attention back then.
weaponoffreedom
Elite
The 1897 Winchester, the combat shotgun in the US military at the time had a 20 inch barrel. This is not a short barrel, as per NFA, which is what the charge was really about.
The Miller decision made it clear that military firearms were indeed protected by the constitution.
I am not sure why it has enboldened my lettering all of a sudden. Nothing meant by the bold text....fyi.
We agree on this subject.
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