Are we not talking about the condo/building collapse in Florida?

[Rebarcock.]

Garbage in. Garbage out. Pay off a few city officials. Cut a few corners. Put an extra few hundred thousands in the kitty and 20 years later the fucker falls down. I predict that when this investigation is over it will all be to the above. You know how i know? Because it is the only fucking building in America that has fallen down on its own, that's how.

Possible but I still think you would notice column integrity issues and concrete falling apart prior to total collapse. Something stinks in Denmark

 

[Cre8ive]

I posted my theory in the Fraggle Rock thread, but it really belongs here:

I think the condo collapse is related to corrosion. No proof, but my gut tells me. No sinkholes in Miami (not a recharge area). I doubt it’s from settlement. Not a lot of clay in this area of florida and any settlement from sand would have occurred soon after construction in 1981. Clay is where you get most long term settlement. What decays after 40 years? Steel exposed to chlorides can and this thing sat right next to the Atlantic Ocean. Perhaps the rebar was not designed with thick enough sacrificial steel.

Now I’m also hearing there was work being done on the roof. However, unless they dropped a crane on that roof, I doubt some small equipment should have led to any collapse.

I hear you John, BUT there are literally tens of thousands of similar structures and designs and they have been standing for MORE than 40 years. I stand by my conviction that is was do to corruption. Corruption of the contractor, the builder and the city inspector. Follow the money.

 

[Zgdaf]

When there’s a fire and the origin is not obvious, the default is to blame bad wiring… sounds like they don’t know structural so they’re blaming the new building put up with construction shaking the ground.

 

[Detective John Kimble]

When there’s a fire and the origin is not obvious, the default is to blame bad wiring… sounds like they don’t know structural so they’re blaming the new building put up with construction shaking the ground.

Buildings are constructed adjacent to other buildings all the time. I don’t think that’s the reason for this collapse. Something was wrong with the structural integrity to begin with.

 

[Rebarcock.]

McAfee son had an office in that building supposedly. It is in wasserman-shultz's district. Kinda interdasting

Did John McAfee Hide Corruption Info in Office Inside Miami Building That Was 'Intentionally Demolished'?

Social media users shared screenshots of a tweet posted by McAfee claiming he had hidden 31TB of files in the Miami condo that collapsed on Thursday.

www.ibtimes.sg

Doesn't look real but what is real anymore

 

[TJHall1]

Supposedly that's fake and McAfee had nothing to do with that place.

 

[Rebarcock.]

Looks like they were in the know.

Miami condo collapse: Engineer previously warned of issues, report says

Documents released by the Florida town of Surfside show a number of safety issues raised ahead of the 40-year inspection for the condo complex that partially collapsed Thursday.

www.foxnews.com

@TJHall1 yup all twatter horse shit

 

[Detective John Kimble]

It looks like a corrosion issue as I suspected, but not from the ocean. From water intrusion from the pool. This article claims the pool deck was not properly designed and waterproofed. Who knows.

Engineer warned in 2018 about 'structural damage' to pool area

An engineer warned back in October 2018 that the Champlain Towers South in Surfside, Miami Beach, was in need of numerous repairs around the base of the structure 'in a timely fashion'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[CurtOFD78]

A guy I work with who is at the collapse right now texted me today and says they have lowered the pile 3 feet in 2 days. Says there is so much work to be done and they are having equipment issues. Exactly what he did not say.

 

[AgEngDawg]

A guy I work with who is at the collapse right now texted me today and says they have lowered the pile 3 feet in 2 days. Says there is so much work to be done and they are having equipment issues. Exactly what he did not say.

Those folks need water even if they were not dead initially. It is going to be a high death count.

 

[CurtOFD78]

Those folks need water even if they were not dead initially. It is going to be a high death count.

Agree. This is a body recovery now, not a rescue effort.

 

[RJ2kWJ]

Agree. This is a body recovery now, not a rescue effort.

Fuuuuuuuck. I can’t imagine how long this process is going to be with lawsuits and families and all sorts of stuff.

 

[Detective John Kimble]

Definitely a rebar corrosion issue. I figured this all along. I didn’t figure that there would be flooded water in the parking garage for years straight. Holy shit, what negligence.

Expert: Flooding corroded Miami condo tower for decades

Corrosion engineering expert Dr. Mehrooz Zamanzadeh told DailyMail.com he believes the Champlain Towers South disaster was caused by accelerated corrosion of the tower's lower level.

www.dailymail.co.uk