Why is everyone so excited about Trump potentially running in 2024?

[quickfeet]

When it is obvious that there won't be a fair election. I am really puzzled by this.

 

[laterallyshaking]

Sad but true. If there are no consequences for rigging the elections, what's to keep them from rigging every single election from here on out? Combine that with them feeding propaganda to the public at large through news media to make it seem like the democrats being elected is the most obvious/moral/sane thing and those who buy into that propaganda will not bat an eye.

Control the public's expectations and their choices and they never feel the noose slowly tightening.

 

[yankmenoodle]

When it is obvious that there won't be a fair election. I am really puzzled by this.

What he said!

 

[America 1st]

When it is obvious that there won't be a fair election. I am really puzzled by this.

This reads like you believe that presidential elections were fair at some point.

You don't really believe that do you?

Most importantly where is your want to see the enemy squirm? Are we supposed to have given up spreading red pills and building opposition to these monsters?

 

[quickfeet]

This reads like you believe that presidential elections were fair at some point.

You don't really believe that do you?

Most importantly where is your want to see the enemy squirm? Are we supposed to have given up spreading red pills and building opposition to these monsters?

No not at all. I'm far from demoralized. Just stating what I see to be the truth

 

[Cat_Incognito]

This reads like you believe that presidential elections were fair at some point.

You don't really believe that do you?

You keep saying this, and you may be right, but where's your evidence?

We're all well aware of the shenanigans that happened in '20. Ballot harvesting, dead voters, dominion voting systems, etc. I don't recall this happening in prior elections, and if it did, it wasn't nearly on the same scale.

I agree with OP.

 

[America 1st]

No not at all. I'm far from demoralized. Just stating what I see to be the truth

Ok so what's a fair election have to do with it?

Are you implying you don't think he can win again no matter what happens?

Also

Is he not the most entertaining thing going anymore regardless or Ws & Ls?

 

[quickfeet]

Ok so what's a fair election have to do with it?

Are you implying you don't think he can win again no matter what happens?

Also

Is he not the most entertaining thing going anymore regardless or Ws & Ls?

I’m not really trying to imply anything, just that the system is broken.

Do you want to be entertained or do you want to try and fix what’s broken?

I don’t really care that much either way, just making an observation. I’m just here for the lulz

 

[Sikness23245]

I’m not really trying to imply anything, just that the system is broken.

Do you want to be entertained or do you want to try and fix what’s broken?

I don’t really care that much either way, just making an observation. I’m just here for the lulz

If he's running, it means he thinks he can win, so I will be cautiously optimistic if he decides to.

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

There would be no more "unfair" elections if we just implemented a block-chain voting system

 

[quickfeet]

There would be no more "unfair" elections if we just implemented a block-chain voting system

And that’s exactly why we won’t

 

[imprimis]

If he's running, it means he thinks he can win, so I will be cautiously optimistic if he decides to.

Sister said she read he is moving to his golf course in NJ to make it his home since he can't run from the same state at his VP candidate and both he and DeSantis live in Florida.

 

[America 1st]

You keep saying this, and you may be right, but where's your evidence?

We're all well aware of the shenanigans that happened in '20. Ballot harvesting, dead voters, dominion voting systems, etc. I don't recall this happening in prior elections, and if it did, it wasn't nearly on the same scale.

I agree with OP.

There is different forms and various amounts of cheating in every election.

The systems that were put in place for 2020 have been around for a while.

Do you believe those systems were in place but there was no cheating just because you don't "recall" it happening?

Essentially what you're arguing is that they'll fix every election on the same scale we've seen in 2020 (which would be difficult with the given push back that's already happened in these states) and doesn't allow for the next 3 years worth of changes. They pulled out every stop in 2020, including a global pandemic, because they knew they needed all those things to come close to having a shot.

At least let things play out before you waive the white flag and rain on freedom loving American's parade?

 

[America 1st]

I’m not really trying to imply anything, just that the system is broken.

Do you want to be entertained or do you want to try and fix what’s broken?

I don’t really care that much either way, just making an observation. I’m just here for the lulz

Trump provides the best lulz hence why many are excited about him running again.

Of course the system is broken (hence the need for Trump).

I've been up, down, and every which way on this forum with people about at least *attempting* to fix the system before waiving the white flag.

P.S. blockchain isn't the way if you're asking me. We need a system like Canada (with paper ballots and no computers) not something that makes it even easier for every Tom, Dick, and Harry to vote from their couch while the rest of us are forced to "trust" their bullshit algos.

 

[America 1st]

Sister said she read he is moving to his golf course in NJ to make it his home since he can't run from the same state at his VP candidate and both he and DeSantis live in Florida.

IFL

Big Dick Ron would make a great VP!

 

[quickfeet]

Trump provides the best lulz hence why many are excited about him running again.

Of course the system is broken (hence the need for Trump).

I've been up, down, and every which way on this forum with people about at least *attempting* to fix the system before waiving the white flag.

P.S. blockchain isn't the way if you're asking me. We need a system like Canada (with paper ballots and no computers) not something that makes it even easier for every Tom, Dick, and Harry to vote from their couch while the rest of us are forced to "trust" their bullshit algos.

I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum of waving the white flag. That’s not the point of my OP

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

Trump provides the best lulz hence why many are excited about him running again.

Of course the system is broken (hence the need for Trump).

I've been up, down, and every which way on this forum with people about at least *attempting* to fix the system before waiving the white flag.

P.S. blockchain isn't the way if you're asking me. We need a system like Canada (with paper ballots and no computers) not something that makes it even easier for every Tom, Dick, and Harry to vote from their couch while the rest of us are forced to "trust" their bullshit algos.

Do you think there is fuckery that goes on with the way the block-chain works for crypto?

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

Trump provides the best lulz hence why many are excited about him running again.

Of course the system is broken (hence the need for Trump).

I've been up, down, and every which way on this forum with people about at least *attempting* to fix the system before waiving the white flag.

P.S. blockchain isn't the way if you're asking me. We need a system like Canada (with paper ballots and no computers) not something that makes it even easier for every Tom, Dick, and Harry to vote from their couch while the rest of us are forced to "trust" their bullshit algos.

I can think of a ton of ways paper ballots can get taken advantage of

 

[America 1st]

I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum of waving the white flag. That’s not the point of my OP

Well if you're not waiving the white flag then you should be pretty excited about Trump not waiving the white flag either.

The world's most popular person carries quite a bit of public support and narrative creation power if nothing else.

 

[JerBearr]

Trump provides the best lulz hence why many are excited about him running again.

Of course the system is broken (hence the need for Trump).

I've been up, down, and every which way on this forum with people about at least *attempting* to fix the system before waiving the white flag.

P.S. blockchain isn't the way if you're asking me. We need a system like Canada (with paper ballots and no computers) not something that makes it even easier for every Tom, Dick, and Harry to vote from their couch while the rest of us are forced to "trust" their bullshit algos.

Right now the block chain is possibly the most secure public method of transferring of data on the planet.

 

[ChicagoFats]

There would be no more "unfair" elections if we just implemented a block-chain voting system

We will get there one day, but change does not come easy.

 

[America 1st]

I can think of a ton of ways paper ballots can get taken advantage of

Sure any system can be taken advantage of.

I just like paper ballots the most and a system like Canada's because I believe it's the least likely to see massive fraud.

 

[imprimis]

IFL

Big Dick Ron would make a great VP!

Might take several Big Dicks to reverse what OBiden & Co are doing.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Sure any system can be taken advantage of.

I just like paper ballots the most and a system like Canada's because I believe it's the least likely to see massive fraud.

You are going to have a lot of convincing to do to if you want us to think that paper is more secure than the blockchain. Paper can be hacked also.

 

[JerBearr]

Sure any system can be taken advantage of.

I just like paper ballots the most and a system like Canada's because I believe it's the least likely to see massive fraud.

Without coming across as rude, please tell me why you think it's least likely to have mass voter fraud, because what you're saying sounds like you're a troll or you're crazy. How many people know how to burn a piece of paper vs how many people know how to hack? Then take those people that know how to hack and narrow it down to how many people can hack a large scale website with massive security. Then take that group of people and further narrow it down to people know know the exactly algorithms and pipelines of the blockchains and can hack that. It is widely accepted that the block chain is on of the most secure methods of transferring data ever developed.

 

[America 1st]

Right now the block chain is possibly the most secure public method of transferring of data on the planet.

Sure but the transferring of the data is only one facet of the problem.

It doesn't matter how securing the data being transferred is if the data itself is dirty. The number of adjudicated ballots in 2020 brings this to light (which would undoubtedly be a feature in any computer driven system) especially since every state would need their own form of blockchain.

The problem with 2020 is that many people who shouldn't have been voting were. Making those votes "more secure" on the blockchain wouldn't be attacking the problem.

Again the goal should be to get people to go stand in line and to cast a paper ballot on election day without any computers. Blockchain creates a narrative where early voting, voting from your couch, not needing an I.D. are all easier to do because "the data being transferred is so secure".

If the general public can't see, review, and understand every part of of the election process it shouldn't be considered. People understand paper ballots and a chimp could check them; the same can't be said with blockchain.

 

[Rebarcock.]

When it is obvious that there won't be a fair election. I am really puzzled by this.

Trust The Plan
You gotta have faith that good wins.
We are all in this fight. It is why this site began.
If you dont i will find you and wrap a #5gr60 around your got damn skull you numbskull

 

[America 1st]

Without coming across as rude, please tell me why you think it's least likely to have mass voter fraud, because what you're saying sounds like you're a troll or you're crazy. How many people know how to burn a piece of paper vs how many people know how to hack? Then take those people that know how to hack and narrow it down to how many people can hack a large scale website with massive security. Then take that group of people and further narrow it down to people know know the exactly algorithms and pipelines of the blockchains and can hack that. It is widely accepted that the block chain is on of the most secure methods of transferring data ever developed.

Your whole premise relies on the idea that those blockchain systems and the people that create them aren't corrupt. We've learned via Dominion (and the fact that states individually controll who handles this process in their states) that they're all corrupt.

If you have a system where only a few people control the flow of information and ability to check then you have a problem.

Even if half a paper ballots were getting burned the ones the general public got their hands on could be verified by anyone.

Just like Trump always says "some things never go out of style". Things like the wheel, walls, paper ballots, and gold are just a few of those things IYAM.

 

[America 1st]

You are going to have a lot of convincing to do to if you want us to think that paper is more secure than the blockchain. Paper can be hacked also.

Hacking isn't the problem.

Dominion didn't need hacked.

What you need is a system in the hands on the general public that's easily audited and understood by ANYONE wanting to partake.

Taking elections and putting them in the hands of a few companies or corrupt individuals sounds like you're asking for the Dominion problem all over again?

Whoever writes the algos is in control with blockchain. As so many have pointed out very few people would even be able to read the algos let alone be able to check them (which likely wouldn't even be allowed the same way Dominion got cover from the courts for proprietary tech).

 

[BigBucnNole]

Any “unfairness” tied to the election came from loose standards tied to reorganizing voting rules on the eve of election to accommodate the pandemic. No way there was enough of a system in place for oversight and verification.

Now normally errors would balance out for both sides. That didn’t happen because trump pushed a bullshit narrative about votes not getting counted if they weren’t counted by Election Day, so enough of his people who voted in the primary didn’t vote in the actual Election Day because they couldn’t get to the polls and declined a mail in ballot.

I’m done with Trump. I’m done with protectionism, I’m done with the pandering to crazies. I’m done with all of it. We want this country to move forward, we can start by dropping his ass. All we have to do is enforce the border, loosen legal immigration, reform our education system, reform the government institutions into a ground up system in place of a top down, and the rest of it falls into place.

Trump was right shot is fvcked up, he correctly identified the parts that are fvcked up. He in no way shape or form came anywhere near addressing it.

 

[Rebarcock.]

There is different forms and various amounts of cheating in every election.

The systems that were put in place for 2020 have been around for a while.

Do you believe those systems were in place but there was no cheating just because you don't "recall" it happening?

Essentially what you're arguing is that they'll fix every election on the same scale we've seen in 2020 (which would be difficult with the given push back that's already happened in these states) and doesn't allow for the next 3 years worth of changes. They pulled out every stop in 2020, including a global pandemic, because they knew they needed all those things to come close to having a shot.

At least let things play out before you waive the white flag and rain on freedom loving American's parade?

Pretty sure the Military neutralized the code when Trump beat Slick Willie's Dyke wife. Then when he won so big 78/61 million the deep shitty state had to close the count down to add more paper ballots. Those ballots do nt have the right ink or H2Omark.
That is why they do not want forensics involved. But AZ is gonna tip over Guam

 

[Rebarcock.]

I’m on the opposite end of the spectrum of waving the white flag. That’s not the point of my OP

So i dont have to wrap have to wrap your head in rebar. Thank you Jesus

 

[America 1st]

Pretty sure the Military neutralized the code when Trump beat Slick Willie's Dyke wife. Then when he won so big 78/61 million the deep shitty state had to close the count down to add more paper ballots. Those ballots do nt have the right ink or H2Omark.
That is why they do not want forensics involved. But AZ is gonna tip over Guam

I'm sure there are some fraudulent ballots somewhere but the largest part of the problem was that anyone and their dead mother and brother could get access to a ballot.

We need to be tightening voter registration and identification rules just as much as securing the process.

It wouldn't matter what system is put in place to count the votes if anyone who wants to can votes.

To your point about Trump beating Killary you are right to a certain degree. They didn't think she would lose so they didn't organize and pull out all the stops like they did for 2020.

They can't do what they did in 2020 over and over and over again for many reasons. There are only so many times you can do the global pandemic narrative and even if they did many of these states have already passed laws and reforms to keep that same shit from happening again.

What we need are for the swing states to get their shit together and to get rid of computers while verifying who can actually get a ballot. If those two things we done Trump wins by 15M votes legally (as he did practically last time around).

 

[Monica_L_DidNothingWrong]

I'm sure there are some fraudulent ballots somewhere but the largest part of the problem was that anyone and their dead mother and brother could get access to a ballot.

We need to be tightening voter registration and identification rules just as much as securing the process.

It wouldn't matter what system is put in place to count the votes if anyone who wants to can votes.

To your point about Trump beating Killary you are right to a certain degree. They didn't think she would lose so they didn't organize and pull out all the stops like they did for 2020.

They can't do what they did in 2020 over and over and over again for many reasons. There are only so many times you can do the global pandemic narrative and even if they did many of these states have already passed laws and reforms to keep that same shit from happening again.

What we need are for the swing states to get their shit together and to get rid of computers while verifying who can actually get a ballot. If those two things we done Trump wins by 15M votes legally (as he did practically last time around).

What's your opinion and fingerprints being a requirement to vote to prove voter ID other than a Driver's license or voter registration card?

 

[Rebarcock.]

What's your opinion and fingerprints being a requirement to vote to prove voter ID other than a Driver's license or voter registration card?

Anal prints work better to identify who votes. Like how the Chynezee anal swabbed diplomats coming in to their country. And USA is smaller so much easier.
Anal prints for everyone

 

[America 1st]

What's your opinion and fingerprints being a requirement to vote to prove voter ID other than a Driver's license or voter registration card?

If people needed to register their fingerprints with the state to verify the citizenship with that state to vote I'd be for it.

You could have a system where you get fingerprinted to get your driver's license or other state IDs.

Certainly wouldn't hurt I wouldn't think especially if working in conjunction with a state issued photo ID.

 

[BigBucnNole]

If people needed to register their fingerprints with the state to verify the citizenship with that state to vote I'd be for it.

You could have a system where you get fingerprinted to get your driver's license or other state IDs.

Certainly wouldn't hurt I wouldn't think especially if working in conjunction with a state issued photo ID.

Fuck that.

 

[America 1st]

Fuck that.

If yore against it then I'm even more for it

 

[BigBucnNole]

If yore against it then I'm even more for it

You are for a digital database registering every voting American by biological identifiers? That’s America first?

That’s authoritarian faggotry.

 

[JerBearr]

Sure but the transferring of the data is only one facet of the problem.

It doesn't matter how securing the data being transferred is if the data itself is dirty. The number of adjudicated ballots in 2020 brings this to light (which would undoubtedly be a feature in any computer driven system) especially since every state would need their own form of blockchain.

This is definitely not true. It would entirely defeat the purpose if there were multiple blockchains. because then there would be 50 "middle men" where each state can alter the vote before it gets pumped to the federal gov.

The problem with 2020 is that many people who shouldn't have been voting were. Making those votes "more secure" on the blockchain wouldn't be attacking the problem.

I'm speaking to secure on both ends of the transfer. The transfer would never even happen (aka the person would have never even made a vote) had blockchain been a thing.

Again the goal should be to get people to go stand in line and to cast a paper ballot on election day without any computers. Blockchain creates a narrative where early voting, voting from your couch, not needing an I.D. are all easier to do because "the data being transferred is so secure".

I don't give a rats ass how you vote as long as it's your real vote and it is not a fraudulent. It doesn't mean anything to me if your vote was made while you were at a church or while your dick was hanging from between your legs over the toilet.
*Sorry this particular reply came off aggressive and was not intended to be.

If the general public can't see, review, and understand every part of of the election process it shouldn't be considered. People understand paper ballots and a chimp could check them; the same can't be said with blockchain.

I'm guessing there are a lot of things I know that you didn't even know was possible (point proven by your strong desire against blockchain) and I'm guessing that is a two way road. I'm sure there are many things you know that I do not know. That being said, this isn't about what the people understand, this is about what is safest for the integrity of the election.