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The lesson the world should learn from the Afghanistan mess
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I don’t know. We set them up pretty damn good. At some point it’s shit or get off the pot. Afghanis gotta stand up and defend themselves, they had the equipment they just refused to fight. It’s not our job to fight for them.
This is a misconception that has gotten too much traction. Some 60K Afghans have died defending their country from the Taliban. And they would have continued to do so had the Biden Administration saw fit to not only cancel all US air support but also deliberately cripple Aghanistan’s own air force.
Im not so sure. Its not like they put up much of a fight. It was expected they had weeks or months until Kabul fell and then it fell in a matter of days. It tells me they didn't give a damn.
If you are willing to hang onto a jet taking off, pick up arms and defend yourself and your country.
These sorts of things are really easy to say when you are sitting on your couch in the comfort of a first world country. And it’s just as easy to think of soldiers in a far off land as pawns rather than people who have families in towns that are being captured by Taliban forces.
The Afghan troops knew that the timeline for the Taliban overtaking Kabul was not weeks but days/hours. That by fighting they were leaving their families vulnerable to being tortured and/or killed. How tough do you think you’d be in that situation?
BigBucnNole
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We kind of fucked over the British and French in the war. The price of protection and liberation was the dismantling of their empires.
Well the world is getting what their dark campaign money paid for.
I don't consider our govt part of the USA.
WARfn3AGLE
Elite
Disagree…
Lesson 1: bullshit elections have shitty consequences.
Lesson 2: “A fish rots from the head down.” Which coincides w/ your original statement.
Easy - Put that mindless piece of shit named buyden in a Turkish prison so he can be the "butt boy."
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