Shiloh: an underappreciated battle

[America 1st]

Crazy how underappreciated an event it is.

 

[RaleighTiger]

Underappreciated song too.

 

[futurepanther]

That place sucks.

 

[quickfeet]

That place sucks.

@America 1st

This guy here is the guy you need to be talkin to Shiloh about. He did a podcast with the guys on The Board last week about it

 

[America 1st]

Why a podcast instead of a video walk through for the rest of us?

 

[Nas]

So, was the Union really caught sleeping?

Shiloh was the battle where someone sent out scouts, disobeying orders not to, and found the Rebels. . . correct? Grant and Sherman got dogged by that for years after.

 

[futurepanther]

So, was the Union really caught sleeping?

No, that's one of the bigger myths about Shiloh.

Colonel Everett Peabody's decision to send out the reconnoitering patrol and them stumbling into the Confederates in Fraley Field let the Federals know that the Confederate army was there in force. The Federals were surprised by the bold move, but there weren't sleeping men being bayonetted in their tents like the newspapers portrayed it.

 

[tiderollsonu]

 

[America 1st]

So, was the Union really caught sleeping?

Shiloh was the battle where someone sent out scouts, disobeying orders not to, and found the Rebels. . . correct? Grant and Sherman got dogged by that for years after.

@futurepanther is spot on.

Sherman was receiving reports for at least 3 days prior of rebel movement. He disregarded them likely due to being chastised earlier in the war (in the press) for supposedly imagining things while being too drunk.

Peabody's detachment was large that morning as well which continues to reinforce the idea that he expected to meet enemy contact.

The roads the rebs travelled to the battle were muddy and even the rebs themselves believed that had lost the element of surprise until reaching the battlefield.

 

[BigBucnNole]

Here was an interview done with a Civil War "general" (actually a corporal but served on Longstreet's staff) 2 years after WW2.

 

[Chris Farley]

Hey Guy Blow....err, I mean Shiloh

 

[Nas]

@futurepanther is spot on.

Sherman was receiving reports for at least 3 days prior of rebel movement. He disregarded them likely due to being chastised earlier in the war (in the press) for supposedly imagining things while being too drunk.

Peabody's detachment was large that morning as well which continues to reinforce the idea that he expected to meet enemy contact.

The roads the rebs travelled to the battle were muddy and even the rebs themselves believed that had lost the element of surprise until reaching the battlefield.

You talking about Sherman in Kentucky? He was spooked as fuck, but he eneded up being right. The Federals did not have the numbers or weapons at that point to deal with the Rebs.

Never heard the drunk thing. I took at is an anxiety issue considering he had "asthma" and really worried about stuff like the newspaper guys, to the point of breakdown.

 

[America 1st]

You talking about Sherman in Kentucky? He was spooked as fuck, but he eneded up being right. The Federals did not have the numbers or weapons at that point to deal with the Rebs.

Never heard the drunk thing. I took at is an anxiety issue considering he had "asthma" and really worried about stuff like the newspaper guys, to the point of breakdown.

Mental health issues were often attributed to alcohol since people didn't know any better back then.

"Grant stood by me when I was crazy, and I stood by him when he was drunk, and now we stand by each other".

William Tecumseh Sherman

 

[Cards1968]

The larger misstep by the Union was allowing the Confederate army to escape from Corinth a few weeks later. The largest massing of two opposing armys on the North American Continent that we know of to date.

'Siege' of Corinth

 

[futurepanther]

The larger misstep by the Union was allowing the Confederate army to escape from Corinth a few weeks later. The largest massing of two opposing armys on the North American Continent that we know of to date.

'Siege' of Corinth

Beauregard's evacuation of Corinth was one of the more impressive feats of the war. He had the musicians stay in the camps to stoke the fires and play music. He also ordered the men to cheer as they boarded the rail cars to make the Federals think they were being reinforced.

 

[futurepanther]

Today is Patrick Cleburne's birthday. His brigade as part of Hardee's Corps advanced through Rhea Spring consisting of the 15th Arkansas advanced as skirmishers, and from left to right the 24th Tennessee, The 23rd Tennessee, Hill's 35th Tennessee, Bate's 2nd Tennessee, the 23rd Tennessee, and the 6th Mississippi.

 

[America 1st]

Today is Patrick Cleburne's birthday. His brigade as part of Hardee's Corps advanced through Rhea Spring consisting of the 15th Arkansas advanced as skirmishers, and from left to right the 24th Tennessee, The 23rd Tennessee, Hill's 35th Tennessee, Bate's 2nd Tennessee, the 23rd Tennessee, and the 6th Mississippi.

Wasted talent. One of the better what ifs to speculate on.

 

[futurepanther]

Wasted talent. What of the better what ifs to speculate on.

Who knows what had happened if he had been risen to corps command, But he was an ideal division commander. A survivor of Franklin said he knew Cleburne was dead when the order to counterattack wasn't given.

 

[shiv]

Who knows what had happened if he had been risen to corps command, But he was an ideal division commander. A survivor of Franklin said he knew Cleburne was dead when the order to counterattack wasn't given.

How’s the weather out there?

 

[futurepanther]

How’s the weather out there?

Wouldn't you want to know, Yankee?

 

[shiv]

Wouldn't you want to know, Yankee?

Hey now! I'm in Huntsville, AL. My grandad took me to Shiloh as a kid. Had a family member named Julius that fought for the Confederacy

 

[America 1st]

Hey now! I'm in Huntsville, AL. My grandad took me to Shiloh as a kid. Had a family member named Julius that fought for the Confederacy

How far from the Trideum HQ?

 

[shiv]

How far from the Trideum HQ?

Looks like that place is right next to UAH - that’s where I graduated from

 

[America 1st]

Looks like that place is right next to UAH - that’s where I graduated from

My uncle and cousin both work there.

He is their head engineer. She gets to report to her dad which is... Interesting lol.