Not having kids

[America 1st]

Who else isn't / didn't have kids?

 

[tiderollsonu]

I had one when I was 20.... Got it right the first time so didn't need any do overs. Now I'm in my 40's so I can hit my mod life crisis in stride

 

[Detective John Kimble]

I have exactly 2.3 kids. Living the dream.

 

[America 1st]

I have exactly 2.3 kids. Living the dream.

Nightmares are dreams so I'll allow it.

 

[RJ2kWJ]

I just don’t think I’m responsible enough yet, and never really had the urge unlike my ex. I was only 26 and she wouldn’t shut her pole sucker about “when we have kids blah blah blah”. God that shit got old.

 

[America 1st]

I just don’t think I’m responsible enough yet, and never really had the urge unlike my ex. I was only 26 and she wouldn’t shut her pole sucker about “when we have kids blah blah blah”. God that shit got old.

I just don't want them period.

There has to be others out there not having them.

 

[tiderollsonu]

I just don't want them period.

There has to be others out there not having them.

They are a solid retirement plan/insurance imo. Need at least one to change your diapers when you get old and get the dementia

 

[America 1st]

They are a solid retirement plan/insurance imo. Need at least one to change your diapers when you get old and get the dementia

This is my worst fear.

Also seems like a lot of opportunity lost for no guarantee of return.

 

[catreaper]

This is my worst fear.

Also seems like a lot of opportunity lost for no guarantee of return.

I think dementia sounds delightful. Not for my family of course, but I’d tell my fam to ship me off to Moscow and live every day in blissful ignorance.

 

[America 1st]

I think dementia sounds delightful. Not for my family of course, but I’d tell my fam to ship me off to Moscow and live every day in blissful ignorance.

They're kinda tough on yore kind over there so you make sure @Dinkis14 keeps a good care of you especially on yore bad days.

Spoiler: Obligatory

 

[tiderollsonu]

This is my worst fear.

Also seems like a lot of opportunity lost for no guarantee of return.

Do you even insurance bro

 

[America 1st]

Do you even insurance bro

Even those criminals at least give some sorta guarantee of return on investment... Unlike children.

 

[TheNJNole]

I just don't want them period.

There has to be others out there not having them.

Not at the moment. We both work many hours. Would not be fair.

Gotta figure out soon.

 

[tiderollsonu]

Not at the moment. We both work many hours. Would not be fair.

Gotta figure out soon.

Don't want to plan college and retirement in the same decade

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

Who else isn't / didn't have kids?

It sounds nice in theory to not have them, but in practice you’re going to be looking at a much much worse end of life, especially if your significant other dies first. Kids become the focal point of your lives and something else to live vicariously through instead of laser focusing on all of your ills like a lot of old timers without kids do. And I don’t mean the end as in the last 2 years, I mean from your 60s onward when your health begins the downward slope toward death that we all experience

Double edged sword tho, because have them too early and you’ll regret losing your youth.

The solution, wait till mid to late 30s to have a kid and travel and do what you feel you need to do

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

I just don’t think I’m responsible enough yet, and never really had the urge unlike my ex. I was only 26 and she wouldn’t shut her pole sucker about “when we have kids blah blah blah”. God that shit got old.

She the one from Austin?

 

[Taggart]

None here... neither the wife or I ever wanted them. Both 37.

 

[yankmenoodle]

The joy of children is Grandchildren!

 

[skramer100]

Had friends that didn't do it. He got snipped at like 25. They live a fun life traveling and such, but find it amusing when we get together they are always all over the kids. Seems like the realize they made a mistake. Kids, while a pain in the ass are the best thing you will ever accomplish in your life.
Oh, the changing diapers thing is definitely a good call. Already told my son I changed yours, just be prepared to return the favor.

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

Had friends that didn't do it. He got snipped at like 25. They live a fun life traveling and such, but find it amusing when we get together they are always all over the kids. Seems like the realize they made a mistake. Kids, while a pain in the ass are the best thing you will ever accomplish in your life.
Oh, the changing diapers thing is definitely a good call. Already told my son I changed yours, just be prepared to return the favor.

People that travel a shit ton without kids also put their best lives before parents obsessively in order to validate their own identities. In their day to day they are much more lonely and depressed than they ever let on

Kids for better or worse are never all that calculated or boring

 

[RJ2kWJ]

They are a solid retirement plan/insurance imo. Need at least one to change your diapers when you get old and get the dementia

That will never happen with me. I think I’ve signed everything known to man to kill my ass if I ever get what my Grandma and aunt had.

 

[America 1st]

It sounds nice in theory to not have them, but in practice you’re going to be looking at a much much worse end of life, especially if your significant other dies first. Kids become the focal point of your lives and something else to live vicariously through instead of laser focusing on all of your ills like a lot of old timers without kids do. And I don’t mean the end as in the last 2 years, I mean from your 60s onward when your health begins the downward slope toward death that we all experience

Double edged sword tho, because have them too early and you’ll regret losing your youth.

The solution, wait till mid to late 30s to have a kid and travel and do what you feel you need to do

I hear this all the time but only from folks with kids it seems.

It seems everyone without kids says the opposite and seem much happier than those without the especially in their twilight years.

@Taggart any regrets?

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

I hear this all the time but only from folks with kids it seems.

It seems everyone without kids says the opposite and seem much happier than those without the especially in their twilight years.

@Taggart any regrets?

I don’t have kids. If you think Old people are made better by being alone vs having kids than god bless

 

[America 1st]

I don’t have kids. If you think Old people are made better by being alone vs having kids than god bless

I'm not sure they're "made better" but they certainly don't seem depressed or need to be alone just because they don't have kids

How old are you? Do you regret not having kids?

 

[TJHall1]

I'm not sure they're "made better" but they certainly don't seem depressed or need to be alone just because they don't have kids

How old are you? Do you regret not having kids?

This is the 2nd time you've made this thread. Are you unable to have kids and you're trying to convince yourself you're better off/look for approval from others about not having kids? It really seems that way, especially when you say things like having kids makes you miss out on opportunities. Seems familiar to something the dems say when it comes to abortion. Having and raising kids is the most gratifying and enjoyable experience of a lifetime, imo.

 

[America 1st]

This is the 2nd time you've made this thread. Are you unable to have kids and you're trying to convince yourself you're better off/look for approval from others about not having kids? It really seems that way, especially when you say things like having kids makes you miss out on opportunities. Seems familiar to something the dems say when it comes to abortion. Having and raising kids is the most gratifying and enjoyable experience of a lifetime, imo.

I've only started a thread like this once.

I was really hoping someone would giving me something interesting to think about regarding having kids but it seems like I always just get the same old same old.

I'm genuinely trying to understand parents and how they think as well. I think it's really strange how defensive some people get over the topic (like yourself) and I'd like to know why that happens.

 

[SmokeHouse423]

People that travel a shit ton without kids also put their best lives before parents obsessively in order to validate their own identities. In their day to day they are much more lonely and depressed than they ever let on

Kids for better or worse are never all that calculated or boring

Correct. I feel bad for those without kids. It may be seem fulfilling at times to be only care about yourselves and your wants in the younger days. To hit your 50’s and 60’s and know that the life your built is meaningless and empty with no one to pass it on to. Not to mention how lonely you’ll be when your significant other passes, followed by dying alone with no one around you. Hopefully they have nephews like me that are sure to communicate and do what I can for my kidless aunt and uncle. They’ll need someone to pass everything on to

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

I've only started a thread like this once.

I was really hoping someone would giving me something interesting to think about regarding having kids but it seems like I always just get the same old same old.

I'm genuinely trying to understand parents and how they think as well. I think it's really strange how defensive some people get over the topic (like yourself) and I'd like to know why that happens.

If you don’t have kids, then in a sense you don’t truly have a concern for the future of the species. It’s a part of a much greater thing which is why it spiritually transforms everyone. If you’re not invested in this world and passing on what you have to your family then it’s all for nothing.

Without that and searching for reasons for hope for the sake of your children, you are left with a void to become cynical. No amount of travel or hobbies will save you especially when you can no longer walk and sitting in a chair just thinking about it all.

The proof in all this will be for you to go outside and Speak to old people without kids and watch them clam up if you ever broach the child subject. I truly don’t really believe you know that many that you’ve talked to about it in depth to see if they really felt regret in it all, but I’ll let you keep that point for sake of argument

 

[d-tiger45]

NO kids here. I don’t regret my decision, but my mom Is upset bercause the family name dies with me, as I'm the last male in the family

 

[America 1st]

If you don’t have kids, then in a sense you don’t truly have a concern for the future of the species. It’s a part of a much greater thing which is why it spiritually transforms everyone. If you’re not invested in this world and passing on what you have to your family then it’s all for nothing.

Without that and searching for reasons for hope for the sake of your children, you are left with a void to become cynical. No amount of travel or hobbies will save you especially when you can no longer walk and sitting in a chair just thinking about it all.

The proof in all this will be for you to go outside and Speak to old people without kids and watch them clam up if you ever broach the child subject. I truly don’t really believe you know that many that you’ve talked to about it in depth to see if they really felt regret in it all, but I’ll let you keep that point for sake of argument

I'd argue I'm more invested in my family and thinking about the future of this world by not having kids.

There are already too many humans and now I'll have more time and resources to devote to my sibling's children.

I see your point but I guess I just see it from the other end of the spectrum.

 

[America 1st]

Correct. I feel bad for those without kids. It may be seem fulfilling at times to be only care about yourselves and your wants in the younger days. To hit your 50’s and 60’s and know that the life your built is meaningless and empty with no one to pass it on to. Not to mention how lonely you’ll be when your significant other passes, followed by dying alone with no one around you. Hopefully they have nephews like me that are sure to communicate and do what I can for my kidless aunt and uncle. They’ll need someone to pass everything on to

I don't plan to pass anything material on besides the house I'll hopefully die in.

Don't buy the life is meaningless without kids schtick. Seems to fly in the face of the human experience and being full of life spiritually.

 

[tiderollsonu]

Being a father is without a doubt the best I have ever done at a job and the most rewarding. No regrets having my daughter even though it wasn't planned and difficult raising a kid when I was still a kid but she's the reason I am the man I am today.

 

[Vermin00]

Different for everyone but it helps me aim to be a better person while also giving me something I love more than myself. That second part, for me, is a cornerstone to how I look at the world and my overall purpose here……if I am striving to live up to the example of Christ- falling incredibly short of it , I might add- then the people who most readily and easily bring that out in me so I can experience a small fraction of that fulfillment in terms of purpose are my children…..before my own kids, I’d say my nephews and nieces did bring that out too…..I do find it way more intense though for my own kids…..but having them is surely not for everyone and I’ve seen people very satisfied in life with that path as well

 

[Taggart]

I hear this all the time but only from folks with kids it seems.

It seems everyone without kids says the opposite and seem much happier than those without the especially in their twilight years.

@Taggart any regrets?

None. We have 3 dogs which keep us busy, we both work, and raising a kid in today's society would probably make me go mental. Also allows us to sock away a lot of savings so we can both hopefully retire a little early.

 

[Taggart]

NO kids here. I don’t regret my decision, but my mom Is upset bercause the family name dies with me, as I'm the last male in the family

Yeah, same here.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Father of 4 kids and its the toughest job by far out of all my jobs. I often wonder what life would be like without kids and have come to the conclusion that it would just be different, not better or worse.

I love my kids, love doing things with them, teaching them and seeing them happy makes me happy. Kids give you a perspective on life that you may not otherwise get to see. As I have gotten older i genuinely appreciate my kids company and enjoy spending time with them.

Its not all peaches and cream though, raising (good) kids is really tough work. Its time consuming and takes away from putting 100% of your effort into your personal goals. Sometimes it would be nice to focus on accomplishing tasks without being interrupted.

To each their own

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

I'd argue I'm more invested in my family and thinking about the future of this world by not having kids.

There are already too many humans and now I'll have more time and resources to devote to my sibling's children.

I see your point but I guess I just see it from the other end of the spectrum.

You won’t care about your Nieces in the same way

Like I said, go with an open mind and actually talk to older people without kids and form an opinion yourself. You have a bad habit of getting dug in and not listening sometimes and sticking to your guns, but if you’re actually curious then that’s the only thing I’d recommend to make my point heard

 

[America 1st]

You won’t care about your Nieces in the same way

Like I said, go with an open mind and actually talk to older people without kids and form an opinion yourself. You have a bad habit of getting dug in and not listening sometimes and sticking to your guns, but if you’re actually curious then that’s the only thing I’d recommend to make my point heard

We get it. I tapped that ass on crypto. No need to make false assumptions.

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

We get it. I tapped that ass on crypto. No need to make false assumptions.

This thread is not an argument it’s a discussion and I’m trying to help you. You’re doing what you usually do and ignoring most of the body of my posts and being combative so I made one final post trying to end the convo and explain why I was doing it prematurely

ignore honest assessments of your behavior from friends at your own peril sir

 

[America 1st]

This thread is not an argument it’s a discussion and I’m trying to help you. You’re doing what you usually do and ignoring most of the body of my posts and being combative so I made one final post trying to end the convo and explain why I was doing it prematurely

ignore honest assessments of your behavior from friends at your own peril sir

I wasn't being combative at all; just simply calling balls and strikes.

Point being when I talk to folks without kids, especially older folks, they tend to say the opposite of what you're suggesting.

Also I don't need to feel the same way about my siblings kids as I would my own for that to give me a sense of fulfilment in life.

Should I mark you down in the didn't have kids and regret it column?