My Mom made me read How to Win Friends and Influence People in High School. This is not it per my memory...

[AgEngDawg]

 

[TJHall1]

What are these other means of clean energy?

 

[tiderollsonu]

What are these other means of clean energy?

Cow farts

 

[TJHall1]

Cow farts

Clean energy doesn't affect the environment

 

[AgentOrange186]

There's really no true clean energy when you dissect the process of how it's produced and harvested. The argument is which one appears cleaner on the surface and makes you feel better about yourself.

 

[American Deplorable]

Funny how they are always on CNN or MSNBC.

 

[Rube Reaper]

We wouldn’t have this problem if the terrorists party would have respected the will of the people and passed green energy funding over the past decade.

 

[LVRebel]

There's really no true clean energy when you dissect the process of how it's produced and harvested. The argument is which one appears cleaner on the surface and makes you feel better about yourself.

True. You could argue that nuclear energy is the cleanest, but also has risks associated with it. Also, hydroelectric energy is quite clean, but you still have to build dams or harness the water energy in some way.

 

[AgEngDawg]

This bitch lives in Fantasy Land.

 

[AgentOrange186]

True. You could argue that nuclear energy is the cleanest, but also has risks associated with it. Also, hydroelectric energy is quite clean, but you still have to build dams or harness the water energy in some way.

I was thinking hydroelectric might be the cleanest but really inefficient. I don't know much about it but I did see the TVA issue an energy cutback request to the general population during this heat wave which got me curious.

The TVA has 29 hydroelectric dams throughout KY, TN, AL, GA, and NC which produce 11% of their energy portfolio and supplies enough electricity for about 1 million households a year.

I wonder if our nation's waterways are maxed out or if there's just no more interest in hydro from a cost-to-output ratio.

FYI - per TVA, their generation portfolio is 39% nuclear, 19% coal, 26% natural gas, 11% hydro, 3% wind and solar, and 1% energy efficiency programs with a total capacity of 33,727 megawatts.

 

[LVRebel]

I was thinking hydroelectric might be the cleanest but really inefficient. I don't know much about it but I did see the TVA issue an energy cutback request to the general population during this heat wave which got me curious.

The TVA has 29 hydroelectric dams throughout KY, TN, AL, GA, and NC which produce 11% of their energy portfolio and supplies enough electricity for about 1 million households a year.

I wonder if our nation's waterways are maxed out or if there's just no more interest in hydro from a cost-to-output ratio.

FYI - per TVA, their generation portfolio is 39% nuclear, 19% coal, 26% natural gas, 11% hydro, 3% wind and solar, and 1% energy efficiency programs with a total capacity of 33,727 megawatts.

The problem with wind and solar is the amount of material it takes to produce it, and their shelf life. Sure, they will generate energy, but how efficiently? Those giant carbon fiber windmill blades are turning into a big deal to dispose of. Plus, the wind doesn't always blow. And the sun doesn't always shine. With hydro and nuclear, you aren't at the whim of nature like you are with solar and wind.

 

[AgEngDawg]

Basically she is telling them, you should just invest crazy money now just to help us.

However, in 5 years, we will bend you over and destroy your way of life.

Not persuasive.