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I may or may have not received a shipment of ivermectin / hcq a few weeks ago. I may or may not have ordered another round. Well I think they are now being held in customs. I may or may not have gotten a call from the company that shipped it and asked if I received. I simply hung up as who knows what was up.
 

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I may or may have not received a shipment of ivermectin / hcq a few weeks ago. I may or may not have ordered another round. Well I think they are now being held in customs. I may or may not have gotten a call from the company that shipped it and asked if I received. I simply hung up as who knows what was up.
Who did you order it from? Asking for a friend of my friend.
 

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Just saw this article in the Epoch Times about long term covid protection for those that have had it and recovered.

Epoch Times article

If You’ve Had COVID You’re Likely Protected for Life​

If you’ve had COVID-19, even a mild case, major congratulations to you as you’ve more than likely got long-term immunity, according to a team of researchers from Washington University School of Medicine. In fact, you’re likely to be immune for life, as is the case with recovery from many infectious agents — once you’ve had the disease and recovered, you’re immune, most likely for life.
The evidence is strong and promising, and should be welcome and comforting news to a public that has spent the last year, 2020, in a panic over SARS-CoV-2.
Increasingly evidence is showing that long-lasting immunity exists.

Initial Reports That COVID Immunity Was Fleeting Were Flawed​

Seasonal coronaviruses, some of which cause common colds, yield only short-lived protective immunity, with reinfections occurring six to 12 months after the previous infection. Early data on SARS-CoV-2 also found that antibody titers declined rapidly in the first months after recovery from COVID-19, leading some to speculate that protective immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may also be short-lived.
Senior author of the study, Ali Ellebedy, Ph.D., an associate professor of pathology and immunology at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, pointed out that this assumption is flawed, stating in a news release:
“Last fall, there were reports that antibodies waned quickly after infection with the virus that causes COVID-19, and mainstream media interpreted that to mean that immunity was not long-lived. But that’s a misinterpretation of the data. It’s normal for antibody levels to go down after acute infection, but they don’t go down to zero; they plateau.”
The researchers found a biphasic pattern of antibody concentrations against SARS-CoV-2, in which high antibody concentrations were found in the acute immune response that occurred at the time of initial infection.

The antibodies declined in the first months after infection, as should be expected, then leveled off to about 10% to 20% of the maximum concentration detected. In a commentary on the study, Andreas Radbruch and Hyun-Dong Chang of the German Rheumatism Research Centre Berlin explained:
“This is consistent with the expectation that 10–20% of the plasma cells in an acute immune reaction become memory plasma cells, and is a clear indication of a shift from antibody production by short-lived plasma cells to antibody production by memory plasma cells. This is not unexpected, given that immune memory to many viruses and vaccines is stable over decades, if not for a lifetime.”
When a new infection occurs, cells called plasmablasts provide antibodies, but when the virus is cleared, longer lasting memory B cells move in to monitor blood for signs of reinfection.
Bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) also exist in bones, acting as “persistent and essential sources of protective antibodies.” According to Ellebedy, “A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” and it’s in these long-lived BMPCs were immunity to SARS-CoV-2 resides.

Long-Term Immunity Likely After COVID-19 Infection​

For the study, blood samples were collected from 77 people who had recovered from COVID-19, about one month after the onset of symptoms; most had experienced mild cases. Additional blood samples were collected three more times at three-month intervals to track antibody production; memory B cells and bone marrow were also collected from some of the participants.

Levels of anti-SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (S) antibodies declined rapidly in the first four months after infection, then slowed over the next seven months. The most exciting part of the research is that, at both seven months and 11 months after infection, most of the participants had BMPCs that secreted antibodies specific for the spike protein encoded by SARS-CoV-2.
The BMPCs were found in amounts similar to those found in people who had been vaccinated against tetanus or diphtheria, which are considered to provide long-lasting immunity.
“Overall, our data provide strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 infection in humans robustly establishes the two arms of humoral immune memory: long-lived BMPCs and memory B cells,” the researchers noted. This is perhaps the best available evidence of long-lasting immunity, Radbruch and Chang explained, because this immunological memory is a distinct part of the immune system that’s essential to long-term protection, beyond the initial immune response to the virus:
“In the memory phase of an immune response, B and T cells that are specific for a virus are maintained in a state of dormancy, but are poised to spring into action if they encounter the virus again or a vaccine that represents it. These memory B and T cells arise from cells activated in the initial immune reaction.
The cells undergo changes to their chromosomal DNA, termed epigenetic modifications, that enable them to react rapidly to subsequent signs of infection and drive responses geared to eliminating the disease-causing agent.
B cells have a dual role in immunity: they produce antibodies that can recognize viral proteins, and they can present parts of these proteins to specific T cells or develop into plasma cells that secrete antibodies in large quantities.
About 25 years ago, it became evident that plasma cells can become memory cells themselves, and can secrete antibodies for long-lasting protection. Memory plasma cells can be maintained for decades, if not a lifetime, in the bone marrow.”
In addition, in 2020 it was reported that people who had recovered from SARS-CoV — a virus that is genetically closely related to SARS-CoV-2 and belongs to the same viral species — maintained significant levels of neutralizing antibodies at least 17 years after initial infection. This also suggests that long-term immunity against SARS-CoV-2 should be expected. Ellebedy even said the protection is likely to continue “indefinitely”:
“These [BMPC] cells are not dividing. They are quiescent, just sitting in the bone marrow and secreting antibodies. They have been doing that ever since the infection resolved, and they will continue doing that indefinitely.”

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Just tested positive. Have a fever and other mild symptoms. Anyone know how it does against omicron? I know the narrative is that monoclonal antibodies don't work against it. Didnt know how ivermectin was doing against it.
 

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Just tested positive. Have a fever and other mild symptoms. Anyone know how it does against omicron? I know the narrative is that monoclonal antibodies don't work against it. Didnt know how ivermectin was doing against it.
Good luck brother. My anecdotal evidence... I got monoclonal antibodies and was probably 95% by next day. Also did the azythromycin and dexamethasone treatment with c,d,zinc etc. Don't by the narrative.
 

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My wife and I both came down with Covid and have had some pretty serious headache and body aches the last 48 hours. I was able to get some ivermectin, the exact same stuff many in her family have used with success and no reported side effects. My wife just took a small dose and I was about to, but I just read to avoid any with praziquantel. This one has 1.87% ivm and 14.03% praz.

What are the risks of praz? Should I not take it, stop my wife from taking it any more, and then go find one that is ivm only?

Thanks!
 

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My wife and I both came down with Covid and have had some pretty serious headache and body aches the last 48 hours. I was able to get some ivermectin, the exact same stuff many in her family have used with success and no reported side effects. My wife just took a small dose and I was about to, but I just read to avoid any with praziquantel. This one has 1.87% ivm and 14.03% praz.

What are the risks of praz? Should I not take it, stop my wife from taking it any more, and then go find one that is ivm only?

Thanks!
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My wife and I both came down with Covid and have had some pretty serious headache and body aches the last 48 hours. I was able to get some ivermectin, the exact same stuff many in her family have used with success and no reported side effects. My wife just took a small dose and I was about to, but I just read to avoid any with praziquantel. This one has 1.87% ivm and 14.03% praz.

What are the risks of praz? Should I not take it, stop my wife from taking it any more, and then go find one that is ivm only?

Thanks!
The other fraggle thread, someone was posting a protocol and usage. I have been using zinc and vitamin D, but can’t kick the last symptoms of sneezing and sinus drainage for the past week. I wish I would have been prepared by sourcing monoclonal antibodies and ivermectin a while ago.
 

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My wife and I both came down with Covid and have had some pretty serious headache and body aches the last 48 hours. I was able to get some ivermectin, the exact same stuff many in her family have used with success and no reported side effects. My wife just took a small dose and I was about to, but I just read to avoid any with praziquantel. This one has 1.87% ivm and 14.03% praz.

What are the risks of praz? Should I not take it, stop my wife from taking it any more, and then go find one that is ivm only?

Thanks!
Note on the horse paste: get the stuff that ONLY has IVM as the active ingredient. DO NOT get the stuff that is IVM/Praziquantel
 

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Thanks for the response LVRebel. TheGratefulReb’s comment you imbedded is what sparked my initial question. I am asking now that we have the IVM/praz (regrettably not IvM only), should we not use it? What risks are there with using it? And as a reference point, many in my wife’s family have used this exact stuff without any reported issues.

Is there any way to tag @TheGratefulReb on this forum?
 

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Thanks for the response LVRebel. TheGratefulReb’s comment you imbedded is what sparked my initial question. I am asking now that we have the IVM/praz (regrettably not IvM only), should we not use it? What risks are there with using it? And as a reference point, many in my wife’s family have used this exact stuff without any reported issues.

Is there any way to tag @TheGratefulReb on this forum?
You tagged him, so maybe he'll see it. I'll go check on the previous boards to see if I can find the data. I can't remember where that came up about not using that one.
 

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You tagged him, so maybe he'll see it. I'll go check on the previous boards to see if I can find the data. I can't remember where that came up about not using that one.
I feel like some of the data might be on the survivalist board linked ITT. There are a lot of pages tho, so would take time going thru.
 

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I feel like some of the data might be on the survivalist board linked ITT. There are a lot of pages tho, so would take time going thru.
Yeah, I looked for a while on that board, and can't find the specific post, but I believe the issue was regarding the safe amount of the praz in humans, and that the amount in the ivermectin/Praz combo ends up being greater than the amount that they consider to be safe for human consumption.
 

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From what I understand from the Survivalist forum board, the issue is the mixture of the ivermectin and the prazi. In order to get the appropriate amount of ivermectin for covid treatment, you'd end up getting a higher dose of prazi than is considered safe. I'm trying to find more information on what the risks are, but have not been able to come across that information yet.

On this other board, they recommend NOT using the mixed tube, but returning it and getting the straight stuff.

Thanks for the response LVRebel. TheGratefulReb’s comment you imbedded is what sparked my initial question. I am asking now that we have the IVM/praz (regrettably not IvM only), should we not use it? What risks are there with using it? And as a reference point, many in my wife’s family have used this exact stuff without any reported issues.

Is there any way to tag @TheGratefulReb on this forum?
 

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From what I understand from the Survivalist forum board, the issue is the mixture of the ivermectin and the prazi. In order to get the appropriate amount of ivermectin for covid treatment, you'd end up getting a higher dose of prazi than is considered safe. I'm trying to find more information on what the risks are, but have not been able to come across that information yet.

On this other board, they recommend NOT using the mixed tube, but returning it and getting the straight stuff.

Again, remember folks......I fucking eat horse paste. Take whatever I say as completely amateurish, not be seen as gospel.

But I believe you're hitting on the correct area here. I don't think small doses of praz will hurt.....but when you up the IVM amount, and then you're getting a whole bunch of praz with it......just better to be cautious.

I just go with the good ol apple flavor Durvet IVM 1.87%

Screenshot 2022-01-04 at 08-20-36 apple flavor ivermectin at DuckDuckGo.png


Tried some other brand, and it was more liquidy than this stuff......and it really tasted like ass, made me gag a little bit. I like this shit because it just comes out in a little gel piece I can swallow down quickly with some orange juice.
 

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Hey Ivermectin Bros. I wish you would look at this cocksucker after the DARPA DOCUMENTS
were released.

Fauci says Ivermectin might work. Amazing how military documents being released
changed his mind.


In today’s White House briefing, he mentioned possible repurposing of existing drugs to treat Covid.

quote:

What does ACTIV do? They have a number of trials, six in number, looking individually at immune modulators; outpatient monoclonal antibody therapies; inpatient monoclonal antibodies; antithrombotics; big effect trials looking at treatments for larger clinical trials to identify promising drugs; and ACTIV-6, which is looking at repurposed drugs — the drugs that people want to know what the results are in a good trial, such as fluvoxamine, ivermectin, and fluticasone.

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The 15,000 person trial started June 2021. I wonder why this wasn’t mentioned back in August when everyone was going nuts over horse meds?

ClinicalTrials.gov
 

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