Home Grown Tobacco

TheFiend

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Whether it's for cigarettes, spit, pipe, or other more important cigar aficionado business.
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Or perhaps simply the enjoyment of autopsy-fetish-packaging boldy emblazoned with "you gon' die" quotes.
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We could just run down to the store and grab our preferred commercial 'tobacco product' anytime.
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So why bother growing tobacco plants at home?
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Ain't it a waste of time & effort, and for what?
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A pile of homemade cancerous butthole flavored assbacco?
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What possible benefits are there from growing your own tobacco?
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Plus, wouldn't it be unpatriotic if we don't support the tax man and the transnational tobacco mega-corporations?

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According to some online conspiracy extremists, tobacco plants possess some scary qualities beyond the potential heart attacks or cancer breath.

For example, tobacco plants can supposedly be used to concoct harmful substances for things like IEDs, aka: Insect Ending Djuices, or IADs, aka Improvised Anti-fungal/bacterial Djizz.

Unfortunately I'm all about improvised anti-f/b-djizz, so I banged these two Vagina Golds in the dirt three-ish weeks back.
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Whether it's for cigarettes, spit, pipe, or other more important cigar aficionado business.
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Or perhaps simply the enjoyment of autopsy-fetish-packaging boldy emblazoned with "you gon' die" quotes.
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We could just run down to the store and grab our preferred commercial 'tobacco product' anytime.
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So why bother growing tobacco plants at home?
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Ain't it a waste of time & effort, and for what?
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A pile of homemade cancerous butthole flavored assbacco?
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What possible benefits are there from growing your own tobacco?
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Plus, wouldn't it be unpatriotic if we don't support the tax man and the transnational tobacco mega-corporations?


South Carolina is a hub for tobacco growing. I've wondered about growing for personal but that was as far as it went.
 
According to some online conspiracy extremists, tobacco plants possess some scary qualities beyond the potential heart attacks or cancer breath.

For example, tobacco plants can supposedly be used to concoct harmful substances for things like IEDs, aka: Insect Ending Djuices, or IADs, aka Improvised Anti-fungal/bacterial Djizz.

Unfortunately I'm all about improvised anti-f/b-djizz, so I banged these two Vagina Golds in the dirt three-ish weeks back.
The plant does so much more. I'd suggest to anyone who got the jab to start taking Zyn. Nicotine destroys nano tech in humans.
 
South Carolina is a hub for tobacco growing. I've wondered about growing for personal but that was as far as it went.
Is Virginia near SC? (🤔.... pretty sure Virginia is actually a state aye?)

Without bothering to Google anything, my current assumption is Vagina Gold tobacco probably got it's name and originated from in & around the Virginia area, possibly used by, grown wild/semi-cultivated and known to the first natives of the area by another name(?)

I vaguely recall reading somewhere that tobacco wasn't known to us Europeans until re-"discovering" the "New"-Old-World and being introduced by the first peoples..... before all the butchery began and inevitably resulted with us "acquiring" the eastern lands, marking out arbitrary lines on maps designating the initial 13 colonies, each of which claimed & renamed everything within, including the various tobaccos, like Vaginy Gold(?)

(Dunno if accurate or not...😂 literally making this up, in a severely stoned haze, as I go.)

Butt anywise, el pointo I was aiming at before gettin' dis-stoner-tracted, is basically something along the lines of: I bet my racist white ass there's wild tobacco still thriving all over the place from the mid west to the east coast and southern states. Might even be found everywhere but maybe less prolific in the colder climates further north and drier climates further west.

(I assume you already have a decent idea of what mature tobacco plants look like)
Ever spotted any on your walks with the doggos?

(*Heard y'all even have various types of wild native skank marijuana growing like prolific weeds in some parts too?)
 
Is Virginia near SC? (🤔.... pretty sure Virginia is actually a state aye?)

Without bothering to Google anything, my current assumption is Vagina Gold tobacco probably got it's name and originated from in & around the Virginia area, possibly used by, grown wild/semi-cultivated and known to the first natives of the area by another name(?)

I vaguely recall reading somewhere that tobacco wasn't known to us Europeans until re-"discovering" the "New"-Old-World and being introduced by the first peoples..... before all the butchery began and inevitably resulted with us "acquiring" the eastern lands, marking out arbitrary lines on maps designating the initial 13 colonies, each of which claimed & renamed everything within, including the various tobaccos, like Vaginy Gold(?)

(Dunno if accurate or not...😂 literally making this up, in a severely stoned haze, as I go.)

Butt anywise, el pointo I was aiming at before gettin' dis-stoner-tracted, is basically something along the lines of: I bet my racist white ass there's wild tobacco still thriving all over the place from the mid west to the east coast and southern states. Might even be found everywhere but maybe less prolific in the colder climates further north and drier climates further west.

(I assume you already have a decent idea of what mature tobacco plants look like)
Ever spotted any on your walks with the doggos?

(*Heard y'all even have various types of wild native skank marijuana growing like prolific weeds in some parts too?)
I hadn't read your entire post so I may add to this.
The Virginia border is about 4hrs from my house. Virginia, North Carolina,SC, Georgia, Florida make up the Southeast Coast of USA, add in the tropical temperate climates- Mississippi Alabama Louisiana are where most American tobacco os grown. There may be some in TX or Missouri (middle America) but nothing significant. Where probably 40% of the folks here are in or next door to tobacco run states. The world needs micro farmers. Do your thing ol boy.
 
The plant does so much more. I'd suggest to anyone who got the jab to start taking Zyn. Nicotine destroys nano tech in humans.
What's this Zyn stuff?

A tobacco derivative?

Tbh I was aware of the anti-nano properties of tobacco since late last year. It's one part of the motivation for the current guerilla grow tobacco testing.

A few more tobacco uses:
Anti-Nano: Eat, drink, smoke, chew.
Anti-Bacterial: Eat, drink, chew, poultice.
Anti-Fungal: Eat, drink, chew, salve, spray.
Anti-Septic: Eat, drink, chew, salve.
Insecticide: Spray.
Pesticide: Spray.
Fungicide: Spray.
Insect Repellent: Spray, salve.
Flea Treatment: Spray, salve.
De-Worming: Eat, drink.
Pain Relief: Eat, drink, smoke, chew.
De-Stress: Eat, drink, smoke, chew.
.....the list just goes on and on and on. It's genuinely fuckin' astonishing.

We can even use tobacco as a source of protein apparently. Eating the leaves raw on their own or added to salads.

But these are only a handful of the most basic tobacco usages.

Big pharma uses tobacco derivatives to concoct all sorts of pharmaceutical drugs, including....😏 cancer treatments too.

Yesterday I found dozens of initial stage academic studies on the potentially beneficial effects of tobacco with various types of serious diseases, for example Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, and also several specific forms of cancer.
The results of the papers I read yesterday were all generally positive, although in every case they conclude further studies, clinical trials, etc need to be conducted to establish definitive results and such.
 
I hadn't read your entire post so I may add to this.
The Virginia border is about 4hrs from my house. Virginia, North Carolina,SC, Georgia, Florida make up the Southeast Coast of USA, add in the tropical temperate climates- Mississippi Alabama Louisiana are where most American tobacco os grown. There may be some in TX or Missouri (middle America) but nothing significant. Where probably 40% of the folks here are in or next door to tobacco run states. The world needs micro farmers. Do your thing ol boy.
🤭Hey ahhhh, random thing I learned about recently.

There's a unique American community living on some islands just off (I think maybe) somewhere along the eastern coast.

And get this, they still have the full blown olde skool British accent....😂
 
What's this Zyn stuff?

A tobacco derivative?

Tbh I was aware of the anti-nano properties of tobacco since late last year. It's one part of the motivation for the current guerilla grow tobacco testing.

A few more tobacco uses:
Anti-Nano: Eat, drink, smoke, chew.
Anti-Bacterial: Eat, drink, chew, poultice.
Anti-Fungal: Eat, drink, chew, salve, spray.
Anti-Septic: Eat, drink, chew, salve.
Insecticide: Spray.
Pesticide: Spray.
Fungicide: Spray.
Insect Repellent: Spray, salve.
Flea Treatment: Spray, salve.
De-Worming: Eat, drink.
Pain Relief: Eat, drink, smoke, chew.
De-Stress: Eat, drink, smoke, chew.
.....the list just goes on and on and on. It's genuinely fuckin' astonishing.

We can even use tobacco as a source of protein apparently. Eating the leaves raw on their own or added to salads.

But these are only a handful of the most basic tobacco usages.

Big pharma uses tobacco derivatives to concoct all sorts of pharmaceutical drugs, including....😏 cancer treatments too.

Yesterday I found dozens of initial stage academic studies on the potentially beneficial effects of tobacco with various types of serious diseases, for example Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, and also several specific forms of cancer.
The results of the papers I read yesterday were all generally positive, although in every case they conclude further studies, clinical trials, etc need to be conducted to establish definitive results and such.
Zyn is a nicotine candy/chew. Not tobacco just the nicotine. Military and college students use it. I still use tobacco
 
so Tobey act co,
how do we put down the cigs?
I fear it will end my personal time
weed is just weed these days too
so how?
big chief?
😆
Ya mean quit smoking?
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(*bit short on time rn & ultra blazed, though I'll try providing a brief general DIY guide based on my personal experiences.)

The way I see things, the entire quiting process could be broken into 2 stages, #1: may take approximately 3 to 5 days from the last cigarette to overcome the most acute withdrawals symptoms, then #2: generally another 1 to 3 weeks for any lingering symptoms to subside completely.

This whole process is simply detoxification.

So to effectively quit, the first trick is getting prepared to fully embrace the 2 stages of suck like a boss. During the weeks leading up to the quitting, it helps significantly to preemptively fortify the mind. It's quite easy to do, just by taking time as often as possible to intentionally sit with one's self quietly and contemplate the upcoming suck. Cast the mind forward, hypothetically imagining yourself experiencing each day of the suck from day 1 right through to the end of week 3 and further beyond 3 months, 6 months, 12 months, 2 years and on where you've long since mastered it, all while directly facing all the uncomfortable potentials head-on, acknowledging and accepting it's inevitability, embracing it all. Setting the intention for mastery, by doing so this will begin to essentially preemptively acclimate the mind to the intented outcome. Sorta like experiencing everything mentally before actually experiencing it.

Anyways...

Stage 1 suck: (3-5days)
-Basically all ya need to do is preoccupy yourself the whole time and roughly half of it might be spent sleeping anyway so that's 50% of the job done.
-Try to schedule/reschedule all social obligations and other potentially stressful external factors around the stage 1 suck.
-If ya partake of the marijuanas, make sure to prepare 3 days supply coz it'll definitely help with preoccupation, de-stressing, improve/stabilize mood, etc. Plus it's a non nicotine substitution that can help ameliorating the habitual behavioral factors, particularly with the practical similarities of smoke inhalation and keeping your hands busy with similar activities.
-Stock up on munchy foods. Appetite will dramatically increase and you're not you when you're hangry.
-Important: Stock up on fresh fruits, especially oranges. Like get a few big ass bags of 'em. The key factor here is the naturally occurring vital-mineral C. It is essential for removing toxins from the body. The more VitC the faster the withdrawal symptoms will subside.
-Increase vital-mineral D. Like VitC it optimizes the detoxification process. Only 15-25 mins of direct sunlight on skin each day is all it takes for the body to produce sufficient VitD.
-Hydration. Limit or cut all other liquids except fresh water and ideally source pure spring water if possible.
-Etcetera.....

Stage 2 suck. (1-3weeks)
-Gets a lot easier from here.
-Maintain keeping preoccupied.
-Maintain VitC flooding.
-Maintain VitD generation.
-Maintain hydration.
-Etcetera.....


(*again, these are just some examples of potentially limitless ideas we could use.)
 
I don't have withdrawls the way people do. Since my spleen was removed I don't crave anything anymore. I don't get hankering for food booze nothing.
my anger is off the scales when I try for just a week, I'm liable to catch another charge (after 25 years of not being in jail)
& i just don't think that that's acceptable with all the responsibilities that I have these days.
 
I don't have withdrawls the way people do. Since my spleen was removed I don't crave anything anymore. I don't get hankering for food booze nothing.
😳You're....a spleenless individual?

😅For real, never even knew that was a thing til just now.

Fuck I'm mad curious bro.
What's that like?

Are you able to, say, quit smoking at any moment and experience no negative symptoms at all?
 
😳You're....a spleenless individual?

😅For real, never even knew that was a thing til just now.

Fuck I'm mad curious bro.
What's that like?

Are you able to, say, quit smoking at any moment and experience no negative symptoms at all?
Yeah Feb 14 2024 I was welding in my shop. Customer called about a job. I was walking back inside (quickly) from verification the job was complete and took a spill and landed on the forklift forks. Went down so fast I didn't even get my arms out.
Instantly knew I was fucked. Tried driving to ER. Couldn't make it. Turned around to go back to shop. Wreck truck next door to shop. Cops come. Say I'm drunk. I tell him I need medical now. He tries to arrest me. I fall out. Almost died a couple times on way to hospital. Get to ER blood pressure 60/40
They know I had internal bleeding but no idea what where or why and I couldn't explain anything and the cop wouldn't listen to what happened. So it went in the hospital as car accident no seat belt.
Had to shut down and move back w family. Worked out great bc I can help w my elderly parents who definitely need it
 
😳You're....a spleenless individual?

😅For real, never even knew that was a thing til just now.

Fuck I'm mad curious bro.
What's that like?

Are you able to, say, quit smoking at any moment and experience no negative symptoms at all?
Yes I can chew or smoke. Set it down and 2hrs or 2weeks later I have no physical need for it. I may think about it but nothing is fidgety or man fuck I'm gonna blow my head off if I don't get a smoke.
I've never had an issue w booze or ganja. Gave up both for a while when I was spinning out of control. That is all trauma based casting those things
 
😳You're....a spleenless individual?

😅For real, never even knew that was a thing til just now.

Fuck I'm mad curious bro.
What's that like?

Are you able to, say, quit smoking at any moment and experience no negative symptoms at all?
Your spleen controls you immune system. Now I'm susceptible to any virus or bacteria so I have to be careful.
I don't even go in to work that often.just work from home. Lucky my fam and I own it and can make the concessions.
Overtime your liver and bone marrow pick up the functions of spleen (similar if blind your hearing improves and smell also)
The smallest infection or cold can kill me fairly quickly if not addressed immediately.
 
Yeah Feb 14 2024 I was welding in my shop. Customer called about a job. I was walking back inside (quickly) from verification the job was complete and took a spill and landed on the forklift forks. Went down so fast I didn't even get my arms out.
Instantly knew I was fucked. Tried driving to ER. Couldn't make it. Turned around to go back to shop. Wreck truck next door to shop. Cops come. Say I'm drunk. I tell him I need medical now. He tries to arrest me. I fall out. Almost died a couple times on way to hospital. Get to ER blood pressure 60/40
They know I had internal bleeding but no idea what where or why and I couldn't explain anything and the cop wouldn't listen to what happened. So it went in the hospital as car accident no seat belt.
Had to shut down and move back w family. Worked out great bc I can help w my elderly parents who definitely need it
Fuckin'ell man, can't imagine how seriously frightening of an experience that must've been, especially with those cop's bloody remorseless cuntistry thrown in the mix too, gott damn! Ah mean, I kinda feel like it's probably an actual miracle you've survived all of this—in spite of the fiveO's best efforts.

Really glad to hear your family is there for you man–and likewise you for them.
Mad respect!

Your spleen controls you immune system. Now I'm susceptible to any virus or bacteria so I have to be careful.
I don't even go in to work that often.just work from home. Lucky my fam and I own it and can make the concessions.
Overtime your liver and bone marrow pick up the functions of spleen (similar if blind your hearing improves and smell also)
The smallest infection or cold can kill me fairly quickly if not addressed immediately.
Shee'it, that's gotta be challenging as fuck aye.

Though tbh the apparent spleenlessness condition of consequential insusceptibility to "addiction"....is exceedingly fascinating.


Of course as you're aware, I can't pretend otherwise that I don't buy into the big pharma allopaths germ theories of "immune systems", biological "viruses" and all that. However notwithstanding my own perspectives on that stuff, I certainly am not meaning to diminish or invalidate your perspectives and experiences at all.

Do you currently smoke or chew tobacco?
 
Yeah Feb 14 2024 I was welding in my shop. Customer called about a job. I was walking back inside (quickly) from verification the job was complete and took a spill and landed on the forklift forks. Went down so fast I didn't even get my arms out.
Instantly knew I was fucked. Tried driving to ER. Couldn't make it. Turned around to go back to shop. Wreck truck next door to shop. Cops come. Say I'm drunk. I tell him I need medical now. He tries to arrest me. I fall out. Almost died a couple times on way to hospital. Get to ER blood pressure 60/40
They know I had internal bleeding but no idea what where or why and I couldn't explain anything and the cop wouldn't listen to what happened. So it went in the hospital as car accident no seat belt.
Had to shut down and move back w family. Worked out great bc I can help w my elderly parents who definitely need it
congrats
now how's an ultra mk ultra'd vic
completely reverse what they did if the feds themselves won't acknowledge what they did?
serious question here...
 
Quite unusual
Dunno aye, seems perfectly reasonable in my opinion, considering the personal circumstances alluded.

My interpretation is: he's basically using tobacco as a means of self-medication to mitigate persistent acute psychological stressors resulting from severe traumatic experiences.

One of the big pharma allopathic establishment's primary practices is to feed us their chemical concoctions for the same purpose.

For example:
Patient: Hey doc, I'm feeling depressed.

Doc: Wonderful. I'll just reach into my bag of big pharma "Anti-Depressants" and see what we can do. Ok, we've got "Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors"(SSRIs), "Serotonin-Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors"(SNRIs), a range of "atypical anti-depressants" or "tricylic anti-depressants"(TCAs), "Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors"(MOAIs), and various other chemical concoctions. Let's start you off with some SSRIs and see what happens. [···scribbles on pad···]

Patient: [···mildly anxious···]

Doc: Alright. [···tears paper···] Take this to any big pharma peddling "Pharmacy", cough up the cash and they'll hook you up with 3 weeks supply of some good old fashioned Fluoxetine (Prozac). Now, off you go.
 
Fuckin'ell man, can't imagine how seriously frightening of an experience that must've been, especially with those cop's bloody remorseless cuntistry thrown in the mix too, gott damn! Ah mean, I kinda feel like it's probably an actual miracle you've survived all of this—in spite of the fiveO's best efforts.

Really glad to hear your family is there for you man–and likewise you for them.
Mad respect!


Shee'it, that's gotta be challenging as fuck aye.

Though tbh the apparent spleenlessness condition of consequential insusceptibility to "addiction"....is exceedingly fascinating.


Of course as you're aware, I can't pretend otherwise that I don't buy into the big pharma allopaths germ theories of "immune systems", biological "viruses" and all that. However notwithstanding my own perspectives on that stuff, I certainly am not meaning to diminish or invalidate your perspectives and experiences at all.

Do you currently smoke or chew tobacco?

I'm indestructible like Burns. Always have been. I should be dead min 4x. Could claim up to 8 legitimately imo. I dream agitated and vibe stuff I don't think many other people do. When I was younger I talked about it and people treated me like I had 3 heads.
Told my brother I had a dream he wrecked the car and tennis was involved some how.
2days later he wrecked at tennis courts pucking up my sister.
When I told I dreamed he got raided he cleared shit out. Cops showed up and found nothing.
I know I'm the same thing only different. I quit fighting it and live the best I can. Try to help where I can.

I'm not sweating your tropes. I agree really. We can't isolate a virus. It is speculation. But I am doing both homeopathic and American Medicine as needed. I'm not gonna literally die on that hill if I can take an antibiotic and live.
I'm doing all kinds of ginger lemon honey cinnamon concoctions and Epsom salt and baking soda soaks trying to detox heavy metals. I got my activated charcoal on hand and oil of oregano every couple days.
I'm also anemic which is normal for longtime steel men. I'm 52 so hopefully I have some more time here on Earth
 
congrats
now how's an ultra mk ultra'd vic
completely reverse what they did if the feds themselves won't acknowledge what they did?
serious question here...
Grok may can answer. I wish I could. Not sure you've enjoyed any advice I'd offered before but now I'd say the best you can do is be the best father husband and man you can be. Anything else you get so far as closure for how you were done wrong-consider it lucky you got it. You made it through. It is easier said than done - I totally get it - don't let the past destroy your future. Live in the present and plan on your future to make the best present.
 
Dunno aye, seems perfectly reasonable in my opinion, considering the personal circumstances alluded.

My interpretation is: he's basically using tobacco as a means of self-medication to mitigate persistent acute psychological stressors resulting from severe traumatic experiences.

One of the big pharma allopathic establishment's primary practices is to feed us their chemical concoctions for the same purpose.

For example:
Patient: Hey doc, I'm feeling depressed.

Doc: Wonderful. I'll just reach into my bag of big pharma "Anti-Depressants" and see what we can do. Ok, we've got "Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors"(SSRIs), "Serotonin-Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitors"(SNRIs), a range of "atypical anti-depressants" or "tricylic anti-depressants"(TCAs), "Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors"(MOAIs), and various other chemical concoctions. Let's start you off with some SSRIs and see what happens. [···scribbles on pad···]

Patient: [···mildly anxious···]

Doc: Alright. [···tears paper···] Take this to any big pharma peddling "Pharmacy", cough up the cash and they'll hook you up with 3 weeks supply of some good old fashioned Fluoxetine (Prozac). Now, off you go.
I went in for my issues
Rebar: yeah I blackout then wakeup later. I'm not depressed or anxious. Just bad trauma from the area that spins me.
Quack: Cymbalta-(Indian voice)- clearly you are depressed. This can cause you to have a black stool. If that happens keep taking it. It means it is working.
Rebar:I'm going to the other guy.
Quack:wait wait. How about Lexapro? I don't make as much?! I mean it won't help as much
Rebar: yeah. No
 
Grok may can answer. I wish I could. Not sure you've enjoyed any advice I'd offered before but now I'd say the best you can do is be the best father husband and man you can be. Anything else you get so far as closure for how you were done wrong-consider it lucky you got it. You made it through. It is easier said than done - I totally get it - don't let the past destroy your future. Live in the present and plan on your future to make the best present.
🍻
 
I went in for my issues
Rebar: yeah I blackout then wakeup later. I'm not depressed or anxious. Just bad trauma from the area that spins me.
Quack: Cymbalta-(Indian voice)- clearly you are depressed. This can cause you to have a black stool. If that happens keep taking it. It means it is working.
Rebar:I'm going to the other guy.
Quack:wait wait. How about Lexapro? I don't make as much?! I mean it won't help as much
Rebar: yeah. No
not laughing at u
laughing cuz of the Indian doctor
😆
 
I hadn't read your entire post so I may add to this.
The Virginia border is about 4hrs from my house. Virginia, North Carolina,SC, Georgia, Florida make up the Southeast Coast of USA, add in the tropical temperate climates- Mississippi Alabama Louisiana are where most American tobacco os grown. There may be some in TX or Missouri (middle America) but nothing significant. Where probably 40% of the folks here are in or next door to tobacco run states. The world needs micro farmers. Do your thing ol boy.
Ky used to grow a good bit but we've had democrat governors almost exclusively since 1930 so all our small farms are closing up and turning to shit.
 
Ky used to grow a good bit but we've had democrat governors almost exclusively since 1930 so all our small farms are closing up and turning to shit.
Yeah when they relaxed the fed ban on industrial hemp I think 100 SC growers got the state permits.
There's been a couple farms that fu ked it up but I've read it has been an overall success.

Fuck Dupont for getting it banned. Half our issues is all the synthetic shit when hemp can cure the issues by itself. Fucking infuriating
 

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