Help a FSF brother out - Mechanical question

[ChicagoFats]

Trying to put gas in my boat. The tank is not full. Its showing about a quarter to half tank and I believe that to be accurate for several reasons. However, when i go to put the gas in the tank, the pump quits like the tank is full after about 3-4 seconds. It took my almost an hour to pump in 30 gallons (I really wanted to go out on the boat).

I have googled (binged actually) the problem and it says something about an air release valve or some type of release valve that may be disrupting the flow of gas into the tank. I can't find any such valve.

Trying to avoid taking it in and pumping gas for an hour. Anyone had similar problems and found a solution?

Spoiler

 

[Cre8ive]

Trying to put gas in my boat. The tank is not full. Its showing about a quarter to half tank and I believe that to be accurate for several reasons. However, when i go to put the gas in the tank, the pump quits like the tank is full after about 3-4 seconds. It took my almost an hour to pump in 30 gallons (I really wanted to go out on the boat).

I have googled (binged actually) the problem and it says something about an air release valve or some type of release valve that may be disrupting the flow of gas into the tank. I can't find any such valve.

Trying to avoid taking it in and pumping gas for an hour. Anyone had similar problems and found a solution?

Spoiler

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I had a similar problem with a car years back. The solution for me was to hover the fuel hose and not let it touch the metal intake point. It seemed to have something to do with static electricity. I was a bit of a pain, but it worked.

 

[poke2001]

Trying to put gas in my boat. The tank is not full. Its showing about a quarter to half tank and I believe that to be accurate for several reasons. However, when i go to put the gas in the tank, the pump quits like the tank is full after about 3-4 seconds. It took my almost an hour to pump in 30 gallons (I really wanted to go out on the boat).

I have googled (binged actually) the problem and it says something about an air release valve or some type of release valve that may be disrupting the flow of gas into the tank. I can't find any such valve.

Trying to avoid taking it in and pumping gas for an hour. Anyone had similar problems and found a solution?

Spoiler

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I think it may be a prostate issue.

 

[ChicagoFats]

I had a similar problem with a car years back. The solution for me was to hover the fuel hose and not let it touch the metal intake point. It seemed to have something to do with static electricity. I was a bit of a pain, but it worked.

I tried this. I tried sticking the nozzle all the way in, i tried just the tip, and no tip. Couldn't get it to take the load of gas.

Im thinking of buying a long skinny plastic rod and putting it down the tank to see if there is anything obstructing it.

I see a few other examples of people having similar problems online, but no real solutions other than a valve somewhere that a couple people have said worked.

 

[44Bobcats55]

Make sure that the overflow vent is not clogged. As you fill the air that is displaced has to be able to escape.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Make sure that the overflow vent is not clogged. As you fill the air that is displaced has to be able to escape.

that sounds like it may be the issue, but im not sure where that vent is? is it near the gas intake?

and JFC i feel like a R-tard.

 

[shiv]

that sounds like it may be the issue, but im not sure where that vent is? is it near the gas intake?

and JFC i feel like a R-tard.

I know this feeling well. It’s like there should be an obvious answer but you just can’t figure it out

 

[ChicagoFats]

I know this feeling well. It’s like there should be an obvious answer but you just can’t figure it out

If I could only tell you how the 3D printer makes me feel .... lower than R-tard

 

[44Bobcats55]

that sounds like it may be the issue, but im not sure where that vent is? is it near the gas intake?

and JFC i feel like a R-tard.

Usually on the same side as the fill tube. Look towards the bow. Should be about the size of a quarter and chrome

 

[22*43*51]

I tried sticking the nozzle all the way in, i tried just the tip, and no tip. Couldn't get it to take the load.

After a couple decades of marriage, that doesn't work on Mrs. 22* either.

 

[TJHall1]

Its the valve. Had the exact same problem with a truck about 5 yrs ago. If you have an air compressor you can try to blow air in while sealing it with your hand to try and loosen the valve with air pressure. It works sometimes, otherwise you have to replace the valve.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Usually on the same side as the fill tube. Look towards the bow. Should be about the size of a quarter and chrome

Will report back. Thank you sir

 

[ChicagoFats]

Its the valve. Had the exact same problem with a truck about 5 yrs ago. If you have an air compressor you can try to blow air in while sealing it with your hand to try and loosen the valve with air pressure. It works sometimes, otherwise you have to replace the valve.

Sounds like something I could try. How do i make sure i don't blow myself up?

 

[44Bobcats55]

Sounds like something I could try. How do i make sure i don't blow myself up?

Use air and not fire.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Use air and not fire.

No static electricity of other spooky shit gonna get me?

Don't want to be that guy at the gas station

 

[44Bobcats55]

No static electricity of other spooky shit gonna get me?

Don't want to be that guy at the gas station

You should be fine. Blow air into the overflow vent.

 

[NuclearPower]

sounds like a mud dobber nest in the overflow vent.

 

[Jtrain80]

I tried this. I tried sticking the nozzle all the way in, i tried just the tip, and no tip. Couldn't get it to take the load of gas.

Im thinking of buying a long skinny plastic rod and putting it down the tank to see if there is anything obstructing it.

I see a few other examples of people having similar problems online, but no real solutions other than a valve somewhere that a couple people have said worked.

Wife's car had the same problem. Come to find out her or my daughter ran it out of gas and tried to fill it with myblawn mower gas can. Somehow managed to break something off in the gas tank that got stuck and clogged tunnel to reservoir.

People wonder why I am always pissed.

 

[Cre8ive]

I tried this. I tried sticking the nozzle all the way in, i tried just the tip, and no tip. Couldn't get it to take the load of gas.

Im thinking of buying a long skinny plastic rod and putting it down the tank to see if there is anything obstructing it.

I see a few other examples of people having similar problems online, but no real solutions other than a valve somewhere that a couple people have said worked.

I think you're on the right track with a rubber extension. I know it's a pisser. Good luck!

 

[Cyberty]

Did this happen at the same gas pump you have used before?

I ask because different pumps have different flow rates. If the flow rate is too high for the interior gas pipe to the tank, the gas will back up and trip the overflow sensor on the gas pump handle.

Try at a different pump. Also you can modulate the flow rate by not opening the valve handle all the way. Most pump handles have graduated handle hold slots to open valve in three different flow rates.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Did this happen at the same gas pump you have used before?

I ask because different pumps have different flow rates. If the flow rate is too high for the interior gas pipe to the tank, the gas will back up and trip the overflow sensor on the gas pump handle.

Try at a different pump. Also you can modulate the flow rate by not opening the valve handle all the way. Most pump handles have graduated handle hold slots to open valve in three different flow rates.

Its happened on 3 separate occasions. The first time i didn't even notice, I just got a cheap gas bill and thought the tank must have already been pretty full.

The second time I let my father - in - law borrow it and he told me he filled it up. Im sure he intended to fill it up(?) but when i got to the boat there was still plenty of room left in the tank and he told me it didn't take much gas.

Couple days ago when i went to fuel up before putting in the water and it starts clicking right away. I can get about 2-4 seconds of gas in and then it starts backing up. But I also got 30 gallons in the tank overall, so i know the fuel guage is most likely correct.

Heading to check and see if I can find the elusive vent shortly.

 

[BurntJ]

I tried this. I tried sticking the nozzle all the way in, i tried just the tip, and no tip. Couldn't get it to take the load of gas.

Im thinking of buying a long skinny plastic rod and putting it down the tank to see if there is anything obstructing it.

I see a few other examples of people having similar problems online, but no real solutions other than a valve somewhere that a couple people have said worked.

I think you responded to the wrong poster here...see below

I think it may be a prostate issue.

 

[tiderollsonu]

Flux capacitor is clogged

 

[Cyberty]

Its happened on 3 separate occasions. The first time i didn't even notice, I just got a cheap gas bill and thought the tank must have already been pretty full.

The second time I let my father - in - law borrow it and he told me he filled it up. Im sure he intended to fill it up(?) but when i got to the boat there was still plenty of room left in the tank and he told me it didn't take much gas.

Couple days ago when i went to fuel up before putting in the water and it starts clicking right away. I can get about 2-4 seconds of gas in and then it starts backing up. But I also got 30 gallons in the tank overall, so i know the fuel guage is most likely correct.

Heading to check and see if I can find the elusive vent shortly.

Did you try to slow the flow?

 

[ChicagoFats]

Did you try to slow the flow?

I tried every which way imaginable. I can’t find the vent switch. I did find a compartment with access to the fuel tank area but don’t see anything obvious.

also, as of today the gas gauge stopped working completely. Fucking boats ....

 

[TJHall1]

Do the air pressure thing.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Will have to take boat out of water .... tomorrow

 

[Detective John Kimble]

I think it may be a prostate issue.

Definitely. The mechanics are in the pull.

 

[JerBearr]

I recommend filling a red portable gas tank for the time being. That won't limit your fuel filling rate

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

 

[lhpvol]

What kind of boat? Is this a new to you boat or just a new issue with your old boat? Are you filling it differently than before (ie on the trailer vs on the water)? It definitely sounds like a venting issue. Some vents are run beside the fill hose and you cant see the opening. Others are vented to a different location. If its a new issue on your same boat,then there is probably an obstruction in the vent line, as others have said. Boats are weird though. Sometimes something as simple as turning the nozzle upside down to let the gas flow in at a slightly different angle will fix the issue. Sometimes you have to reroute a vent hose. A little more detail and I may be able to help further. Otherwise, just barely hold the nozzle open and let the gas trickle in. Its a pain but itll get there.