I very much would like to have this conversation too. It seems like every time it attempts to spin up, it blows peoples minds and they think your crazy, or it blows peoples minds and that donāt care to understand anymore.Mate, I realize I post some utterly moronic shit,....on the regular, as well as that I'm uncommonly forthcoming with a lot of personal information & shit most others would likely not share, I guess.
I'm not sure about which interpretation-perspective to adopt, with regard to the structure of your response, imma just hang back in a neutral not give a fuck position for the mo.
Maybe I come off as though an obsequious child?, &/Or perhaps on some stupid ass-licking mission,...ever gump-ishly ingratiating some faggoty projected public image of this cunt - "cUrIoUsFiEnD"?
LoL, fuck, I would agree too,...now that I'm focused on thinking about it,...my profile kinda does seem like a total fuckin douche!
Shit, to be fuckin fair, I reckon that would be understandable.
But not in your particular case PleasureMoose.
Simply coz I've already sorta explained to ya about some of the shit I'd mentioned leading to "C"-"PTSD" and "Avoidant-PD" tags.
Think of a full grown-pure blooded tank of an American Pitbull.
Better yet,..try this.
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If one of innocent pups were to end up in the "care", as a responsibility of those most irresponsible,...and endures nothing but severe beatings, food deprivation and prolonged psychological torture.
How might this pup develop into adulthood?
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Except I've ditched that wicked path I was forced to take in youth.
I've made self-driven progress to overcome the nurtured ignorance, lack of education, financial destitution, blind atheism, extreme rage, hostility and especially the sudden eruptions of raw violence.
I am not my experiences.
I am what I will.
I will,...to be like the heartiest example who ever existed.
Who assertively demonstrated, to all humanity, the greatest potentials a hu-man can seek to achieve.
Spock.
Jks,...of course I mean Christ.
(The dude was a pure badass back in his day!)
Anyways, back to addressing the quoted post.
GC moose,...there's much I've never shared,...here or anywhere,...if I explained the reasoning necessitating keeping certain esoteric practices private, it will definitely piss people off and immediately repel deeper thought - because to "the common man" these reasons inherently imply either a delusional superiority whack-job &/or a deliberate insult alluding to total ignorance of the fundamentally-"bizarre", less-discernable, and highly uncommon nature of such "outlandish" seeming shit.
(*Relatively "speaking".)
I'm not making that up,...coz I have tried & failed countless times to explain simple-widely available esoteric insight and on occasion more complex occult type stuff.
The trouble I've had, is figuring out how to - essentially adopt Rebars "bard-like" approach - so to explain shit in their uniquely precise way so as to either bypass any pre-established &/or well developed sub/un-conscious biases.
Or more often,...I've optimistically chosen to afford the same respect I would appreciate unto myself.
Deciding "meh, fuck it",...bluntly dishing them the deets.
No one ever came to me and spilled the occult beans.
What little I currently like to think I have an understanding of,...was only ever learnt because I willfully made effort with focused intent towards exploring this vast unknown aspect of my very being - ie; the "Spiritual"/"Occultic"/"Esoteric" mysteries of which we are all connected whether we approve or not.
My current opinion is,...beyond responsibly leading an-other individual to water voluntarily,...it is the individuals own inherent duty to direct ones-self to drink, as they alone are director of their individuated sovereign entity,... ...it is solely for them whether they-them-selves have sufficiently debiased enough of the communally programmed cognitive & emotive inhibitors.
Anyways, in this particular case, those specific questions from my prior post, of which were referred to by Mr Moose, these are founded from personal experiences,...dating back over two decades so far.
Mr Moose,...I am no pro and yet I'm also no amateur with respect for OBEs bro.
I hope you, and others can understand that I'm generally very fuckin hesitant to elaborate upon my subjective experiences specifically relating to OBEs.
I really don't mind sharing anything,...if by doing so can be of benefit for others learning, yet if otherwise I see no point to opening my-self up to potential mockery from the multitudinous ignorant online dick-bag hordes.
(Mr Moose, that isn't aimed at you in anyway mate.)
I ain't seeking to covertly imply as if to be some queer bloody enlightened fuckin master or some such fuck-wittery.
Just like you and every-other mofo to have ever existed, I'm the same.
I am merely a hu-man,...just as fallible as any-other.
I'll share this though,...
-The first fully conscious & stable experience of a "Lucid Dream" state, for me, was totally unintentional.
This occured during the day, while meditating.
At this time I was totally ignorant of tripppy stuff we can do,...like remaining conscious while allowing the body to go into "standby- mode".
I still clearly recall the events,...and at no point did my [lack-of]awareness notice any transition.
I finished meditation, and casually strolled outside to continue on with the days missions.
It wasn't long before becoming aware something very unusual was occuring, suddenly feeling really weakened when becoming overwhelmed with a confused-frustration as to why my brothers and their gfs,...and even the fuckin dogs all seemingly decided to go above and beyond, as a group, to ignore my direct questions & their seemingly impossible refusal to even acknowledge my presence at all.
As the growing confused-frustration rapidly increased, another entirely new sense first became manifest!
It was like being severely drained to the point of falling unconscious.
I remember thinking shit like... #["why do I suddenly feel so fucked up?!"] -
#["do I need to go to the hospital?!"] -
#["I'm not sensing any physical alerts from my flesh bod.!!"] -
#["the fuck's happening?!"]
This is as I went to lean against the open garage door frame,...except the expected pressure sensation from leaning my weight against the frame never happened,...
...it's hard to describe the full blown shock & awe that occured within the fleeting miliseconds realizating I have apparently just toppled backwards-at a slight angle-through a metal wall and was now partially within the mountain of junk stacked behind that wall.
That was immediately followed by jolting open my physical eyes in a state of panic,...finding that I'm looking at the ceiling of my bedroom in confused terror.
It still took me a few stressed out weeks of frantic researching before finding the right information to begin figuring out what had happened.
If I hadn't experienced this, there's little chance I'd believe someone else describing such an oddity.
Yeah,...I'm looking at you TJ, go for it mate, I'll bust out an equally hilarious counter-meme in your honour.
To finish this post, here's the only pic that I have of my-self. It's from a local tattooists public collection of his works. Taken years ago just after he'd completed the right sleeve.
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Followed by some random shit I'd originally come here to post this morning prior to getting sidetracked.
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View attachment 97298I agree with Samael on that last one,...though I seriously wonder who he is referring to "as our Father".
Everything can be traced back to āin the beginningā so every bit of it is connected. I stumbled about esoterica by complete accident when I found a book at a used book store.
I spent a couple years trying to solve the puzzle of the philosophers stone. I found enough of an answer to satisfy me, but I really stepped back from it a ton at that point.
I had a vision where I saw Jesus and it all fell into place for me. Woke up, told my wife I was a Christian, and moved on with life lol. I donāt do church though
In my opinion, it all connects in with Christianity. Jesus rent the veil and thatās why everyone hates him for it.