Will Trevor Lawrence be a flop in the NFL?

[ChicagoFats]

Trevor Lawrence is off to an 0-4 start with the jaguars this year and to be honest he doesn't look great. Do you all think he will come around and have a good career or is he going to be a dud and just be another average QB?

Joe Montana has an interesting thought that the college offenses are just too simple and QB's are not ready to properly read defenses when they get to the NFL. Some truth to that probably.

Not sure if the Urban drama will help or hurt. Maybe it will take some attention off of lawrence sucking and give him a little breathing room.

Joe Montana Comments On Lack Of Mental Preparation With Rookie QB's

Clemson's Trevor Lawrence was profiled as a generational talent coming out of college. Through four NFL games, Lawrence is sitting at 0-4, throwing more interceptions than scores a

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[Cre8ive]

Trevor Lawrence is off to an 0-4 start with the jaguars this year and to be honest he doesn't look great. Do you all think he will come around and have a good career or is he going to be a dud and just be another average QB?

Joe Montana has an interesting thought that the college offenses are just too simple and QB's are not ready to properly read defenses when they get to the NFL. Some truth to that probably.

Not sure if the Urban drama will help or hurt. Maybe it will take some attention off of lawrence sucking and give him a little breathing room.

Joe Montana Comments On Lack Of Mental Preparation With Rookie QB's

Clemson's Trevor Lawrence was profiled as a generational talent coming out of college. Through four NFL games, Lawrence is sitting at 0-4, throwing more interceptions than scores a

www.outkick.com

Externally he is a 10. Mentally it appears he is a 3. Brains over braun every time.

 

[Rebarcock.]

He is talented. I kinda think ot is the jags more than Lawrence. Probably a lot like Darnold w the panthers. Sucked at jets but change of scenery helped. Plus Meyer is a fuck up

 

[Cre8ive]

He is talented. I kinda think ot is the jags more than Lawrence. Probably a lot like Darnold w the panthers. Sucked at jets but change of scenery helped. Plus Meyer is a fuck up

I hope so. I don't wish to see any athlete fail due to circumstances beyond their control.

 

[Rebarcock.]

I hope so. I don't wish to see any athlete fail due to circumstances beyond their control.

The dude was possibly the best qb I have seen in person. I'd imagine Jacksonville is a death sentence. Hell Urban isn't going to make it 1 year. Dysfunctional isn't descriptive enough for that dumpster fire

 

[Cre8ive]

The dude was possibly the best qb I have seen in person. I'd imagine Jacksonville is a death sentence. Hell Urban isn't going to make it 1 year. Dysfunctional isn't descriptive enough for that dumpster fire

Urban is a ticking time bomb. Often a change of head coach can completely turn a team, and most of it's players, into champions. It's all in the head at the pro level. Trevor was drafted #1 for a reason. He's got the equipment, now he needs the knowledge for the pros.

 

[AgEngDawg]

Trevor Lawrence is off to an 0-4 start with the jaguars this year and to be honest he doesn't look great. Do you all think he will come around and have a good career or is he going to be a dud and just be another average QB?

Joe Montana has an interesting thought that the college offenses are just too simple and QB's are not ready to properly read defenses when they get to the NFL. Some truth to that probably.

Not sure if the Urban drama will help or hurt. Maybe it will take some attention off of lawrence sucking and give him a little breathing room.

Joe Montana Comments On Lack Of Mental Preparation With Rookie QB's

Clemson's Trevor Lawrence was profiled as a generational talent coming out of college. Through four NFL games, Lawrence is sitting at 0-4, throwing more interceptions than scores a

www.outkick.com

Ask any team that has drafted an Ohio State qb.

 

[AgEngDawg]

He is talented. I kinda think ot is the jags more than Lawrence. Probably a lot like Darnold w the panthers. Sucked at jets but change of scenery helped. Plus Meyer is a fuck up

Meyer just has fingers in a lot of pies and is not focused. He will get right.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Externally he is a 10. Mentally it appears he is a 3. Brains over braun every time.

I know what you are saying, but during his time at Clemson he was very mentally tough. I don't know if that is it.

 

[ChicagoFats]

He is talented. I kinda think ot is the jags more than Lawrence. Probably a lot like Darnold w the panthers. Sucked at jets but change of scenery helped. Plus Meyer is a fuck up

Yeah, you would think Urban would be a good fit with Lawrence but maybe not. Doesn't sound like Urban has a whole lot of respect on the team from the reports coming out after the "dancing" incident.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Urban is a ticking time bomb. Often a change of head coach can completely turn a team, and most of it's players, into champions. It's all in the head at the pro level. Trevor was drafted #1 for a reason. He's got the equipment, now he needs the knowledge for the pros.

Agreed. Hopefully he keeps studying the game and gets better. I want to see him succeed, always had a good attitude and seemed like a good dude.

 

[shiv]

Waaaay to soon to make that decision IMO.

Just one example:

 

[shiv]

 

[ChicagoFats]

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Damn, forgot Aikmen went 0-11 his first year!

 

[shiv]

Damn, forgot Aikmen went 0-11 his first year!

He just needed a few concussions to get him dialed in

 

[AgEngDawg]

Not everyone can be MattyIce and hit the ground running as a rookie.

It takes some time.

 

[TopHook]

Not everyone can be MattyIce and hit the ground running as a rookie.

It takes some time.

He won't get it done in Jax and I believe he will be broken by the time he leaves. He doesn't have the balls to tell the manager what he would need to help him. He's a bust already.

 

[mrt]

I had to do some fact checking for who he is, he is the quarterback that was busy blowing kisses to his fans after scoring on LSU in the championship. After his kisses he promptly got his ass whooped. He won't be successful, he is a wuss. If my memory serves me right Georgia and the rest of the SEC beat him senseless before he graduated. One comment above is correct, he cannot read the NFL defenses, it was all about himself on his run for The Heisman. mho

 

[mrt]

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And I still can't stand to hear him or see him on TV, he is not funny nor is he smart. I don't think he has actually ever had a real job outside of football. His appearance on Married with Children was his greatest accomplishment, unless of course you were a Pitts fan in the 70s ;0)

 

[Pillow Pants]

Tony Elliott is a twat and a terrible OC. He did basically nothing to prepare TL for the NFL, unless you consider TL having to audible out of awful play calls about half of the time as preparing him in some way.

With that said, TL has not looked awful. He's gotten plenty of praise. Keep in mind that his team had the #1 pick for a very good reason. He going to be fine. But just like every high draft pick QB, he really needs that team to build around him ASAP.

 

[AgEngDawg]

Tony Elliott is a twat and a terrible OC. He did basically nothing to prepare TL for the NFL, unless you consider TL having to audible out of awful play calls about half of the time as preparing him in some way.

With that said, TL has not looked awful. He's gotten plenty of praise. Keep in mind that his team had the #1 pick for a very good reason. He going to be fine. But just like every high draft pick QB, he really needs that team to build around him ASAP.

I have never really understood how a RB coach could be an OC.

The offense is about the QB. The QB coach should be OC.

 

[Cre8ive]

I have never really understood how a RB coach could be an OC.

The offense is about the QB. The QB coach should be OC.

I have never hear Trevor Lawrence interviewed or seen him speak at all. Is he articulate? do you get the impression he is smart and has an above average I.Q.?

 

[Pillow Pants]

I have never hear Trevor Lawrence interviewed or seen him speak at all. Is he articulate? do you get the impression he is smart and has an above average I.Q.?

He is articulate, always calm, and quite intelligent. There's a bunch of reasons why he is considered the most can't miss prospect since Andrew Luck. And they're not wrong.

 

[Rva]

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Patrick Mahomes begs to differ

 

[TheGratefulReb]

Rookie on a shit team, with a shit person HC. He's got the tools.

The gap from college to pros is much wider than gap from high school to college.

College playbook, half an inch thick. Pro playbook, encyclopedia thickness

 

[America 1st]

Rookie on a shit team, with a shit person HC. He's got the tools.

The gap from college to pros is much wider than gap from high school to college.

College playbook, half an inch thick. Pro playbook, encyclopedia thickness

 

[Cre8ive]

Rookie on a shit team, with a shit person HC. He's got the tools.

The gap from college to pros is much wider than gap from high school to college.

College playbook, half an inch thick. Pro playbook, encyclopedia thickness

They did that to Archie Manning when they put him on the New Orleans Saints

 

[ChicagoFats]

Jags move to 0-5. Lawrence had a better game. Only one interception and that was on the last play of the game. He had trouble picking up a 4th and 1 with a QB sneak for the second week in a row.

 

[AgEngDawg]

Jags move to 0-5. Lawrence had a better game. Only one interception and that was on the last play of the game. He had trouble picking up a 4th and 1 with a QB sneak for the second week in a row.


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Lawrence is going to be fine. Kyler Murray looked terrible his first year and has done a lot better with experience.......and Kyler is even coached by a metrosexual.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Trevor is pissed Urban insinuated he couldn't run a QB sneak.

Urban Meyer, Trevor Lawrence give conflicting answers on failed fourth-down attempt

Urban Meyer's postgame explanation of a questionable play call in the Jaguars' loss to the Titans was confusing.

www.usatoday.com

 

[MVTPatriot]

It really is a crap shoot with today's QB's coming up from college. The new spread offense doesn't teach these kids the necessity of going through progressions. If your first option is covered, run it.
You either have to be an exceptional athlete(Jackson) or develop quickly with the right instruction(Mahomes). The NFL QB graveyard is littered with a bunch of recent RPO QB's.
Despite the new offenses, there still some inherent truths about NFL offenses:
- You have to make plays from the pocket(Brady).
- You have to be able to run when the D knows you want to run.
Have to be able to do both of those consistently in the NFL to win IMO.

 

[ChicagoFats]

It really is a crap shoot with today's QB's coming up from college. The new spread offense doesn't teach these kids the necessity of going through progressions. If your first option is covered, run it.
You either have to be an exceptional athlete(Jackson) or develop quickly with the right instruction(Mahomes). The NFL QB graveyard is littered with a bunch of recent RPO QB's.
Despite the new offenses, there still some inherent truths about NFL offenses:
- You have to make plays from the pocket(Brady).
- You have to be able to run when the D knows you want to run.
Have to be able to do both of those consistently in the NFL to win IMO.

I agree with you but Brady is the exception. He doesn't need to run. Agree on everyone else.

 

[MVTPatriot]

I agree with you but Brady is the exception. He doesn't need to run. Agree on everyone else.

Cause he's able to make plays from the pocket better than anyone that's played the position. And I'm not a Brady fan either.
I'm a Falcon's fan and was completely bought in during the MV years. The dude as dynamic. But good D's forced him to win from the pocket. He wasn't at his best then. Same goes for Jackson. Teams that force him to stay in the pocket stand a better chance of winning. He has to consistently perform there.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Cause he's able to make plays from the pocket better than anyone that's played the position. And I'm not a Brady fan either.
I'm a Falcon's fan and was completely bought in during the MV years. The dude as dynamic. But good D's forced him to win from the pocket. He wasn't at his best then. Same goes for Jackson. Teams that force him to stay in the pocket stand a better chance of winning. He has to consistently perform there.

MV was a true dual talent. He could run and throw with the best of them. Miss watching him play.

 

[MVTPatriot]

MV was a true dual talent. He could run and throw with the best of them. Miss watching him play.

I'm an FSU fan as well. The # of ACL's he responsible for tearing in the 2000 Sugar Bowl I think is 3 or 4. Just had no help.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Trevor with his first NFL win today throwing for 319 yards and 1 TD.

Jags were playing the Dolphins in London and pulled out the W on a last second field goal.

 

[America 1st]

Trevor with his first NFL win today throwing for 319 yards and 1 TD.

Jags were playing the Dolphins in London and pulled out the W on a last second field goal.

Meyer’s coaching is really doing wonders for him and that organization.

They don’t look dead in the water anymore.