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Who invented diagonally crossing over for the 5th tally mark

Eye feel the same weigh about the person who started putting lines threw there zeros.
 
Or they could have had 3 finger hands. The fossil evidence does not exist because of their very weak bone structure due to millennia in a gravity free environment as they traveled the universe.

But there is a reason why there is a based five vs based three counting controversy to this day. The hands.
I’ve read in detail about this before somewhere. It talked about how a base 10 system is not very elegant compared to other bases so we got jacked up by the number of fingers

You can actually use your fingers to count to up to 144 effectively if you do this:

AsiaEdit

Finger-counting systems in use in many regions of Asia allow for counting to 12 by using a single hand. The thumb acts as a pointer touching the three finger bones of each finger in turn, starting with the outermost bone of the little finger. One hand is used to count numbers up to 12. The other hand is used to display the number of completed base-12s. This continues until twelve dozen is reached, therefore 144 is counted.[5][Note 3][6][Note 4]
 
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I’ve read in detail about this before somewhere. It talked about how a base 10 system is not very elegant compared to other bases so we got jacked up by the number of fingers

You can actually use your fingers to count to up to 144 effectively if you do this:

AsiaEdit

Finger-counting systems in use in many regions of Asia allow for counting to 12 by using a single hand. The thumb acts as a pointer touching the three finger bones of each finger in turn, starting with the outermost bone of the little finger. One hand is used to count numbers up to 12. The other hand is used to display the number of completed base-12s. This continues until twelve dozen is reached, therefore 144 is counted.[5][Note 3][6][Note 4]
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