What's going on in this person's mind?

[Cartoondude135]

Please be a psychiatrist and help decipher what went wrong here:

All I'm trying to do is gather intelligence to a subject while including as much detail as possible. After all, the more details = the better the answerer will understand the problem that needs to be solved.

But my thread on Sound Effects Fandom got removed for the reason "Take a hint if your post keeps getting deleted. I removed it because it was way too long, but you should know that if it’s deleted once, DO NOT try to post it again!"

After my block expired, I tried negotiating calmly with the following:

"All I'm trying to do is do what every student or newcomer does when they discover a new piece to a puzzle their solving: gather intelligence."


But these people are anything but helpful.

It took me a whopping 8 years to realize that companies like The Hollywood Edge are what I had to resort to when it comes to acquiring those fancy sound effects we hear in TV, movies, and games. But these mods were anything but helpful.

If I don't succeed at securing an answer on my first go, I try try again somewhere else. But these mods treated my situation like I committed some kind of felony by just asking.



And you're not going to believe the reply message I just got from Sound Effects Fandom:

"Final warning
Listen here, you. I'm tired of your overly long messages bossing ME and the other admins around. You'd better quit it or else you're getting blocked permanently. If you don't like the way we operate, then why don't you get yourself out of here?"

So my attempt to negotiate calmly backfired. Can you believe that? Is that any way to treat a student/learner/scout trying to gather as much information on this new part of the subject they're learning as possible? I’m not even asking their admins; I’m asking ANYBODY ELSE (who isn't an admin) AVAILABLE AND WILLING TO HELP ME (complete this important errand of mine)!

But the next day, I return to see a comment posted on my profile on Sound Effects Fandom but see no comment. However, I did see I was "blocked" for "Talking back to admins and speaking rudely to them. Now you've really gone too far!" - even though I didn't do anything on their domain this time!

Worse, I also got permabanned from community central for "Abusing multiple accounts" by Jr Mime. So I can't contact the admin via community central! What or how did I even get this type of ban? Like... I didn't even do anything on Sound Effects Fandom this time! And I desperately need answers to where I can download these missing sound effect libraries: Anime, Miniclip, DePatie, DFE, Disney, Elektra Records, Famous Studios, FOX, Star Trek: Original TV Series, Joel Valentine, Hacienda, Hanna Barbera, Horta, Horta Hacienda, Alex Fresno, BBC, Bob Clampett, Harry Bluestone, Nickelodeon, Nelvana, New Warner Bros, NTWK, OMI, Pro Sound Effects, PSEL, Rocky and Bullwinkle, 20th Century Fox, Audio Effects Co., Rich Harrison, Mark Mangini, Richard L. Anderson, Skywalker, Warner Bros, Turner Entertainment, Unknown Sound Effects Library, and Valentino libraries in addition to the sounds used in Super Mario Bros Z (original and remastered) to complete my mission. I had to start all the way from the beginning of my life (I.E my childhood) and work my way up to the present day of all my recently viewed medias (TV shows, cartoons, video games, and movies).

Also, anything listed here https://soundeffects.fandom.com/wiki/Sound_Ideas_Canada_Ltd. but not available via Source Audio.

It took me 8 back-aching years just to figure out that companies like The Hollywood Edge are what I had to resort to when it comes to acquiring those fancy sound effects we hear in TV, movies, and games. - Especially after browsing my favorite video games, movies, and TV shows on their fandom. But even with this, more info/intel wouldn't hurt. Plus, for some, life is way shorter than you think. - I.E, terminal illness. This is one case where we won't accept "Too bad, so sad" that easily; we're going to complete our goals after being inspired if it's the last thing we do!

But that fandom along with everywhere else seems to treat my case like I committed some kind of felony.

No one can tape my mouth shut like that! I have a message to get across or a Q to ask! Even the good certain-to-random comments I made on completely random YouTube videos got ghosted upon posting them! - Like how some reddits instantly remove a thread upon it's erection. I will not be treated as the runt of the litter! I've been inspired by something and I want to follow it!

That, combined with reddits perma-banning me for even the simplest to fix/resolve offences, I've never felt so shunned from the internet in all my life!

And I am running out of places to try asking this type of Q in addition to my patience.

 

[TheFiend]

Please be a psychiatrist and help decipher what went wrong here:

All I'm trying to do is gather intelligence to a subject while including as much detail as possible. After all, the more details = the better the answerer will understand the problem that needs to be solved.

But my thread on Sound Effects Fandom got removed for the reason "Take a hint if your post keeps getting deleted. I removed it because it was way too long, but you should know that if it’s deleted once, DO NOT try to post it again!"

After my block expired, I tried negotiating calmly with the following:

"All I'm trying to do is do what every student or newcomer does when they discover a new piece to a puzzle their solving: gather intelligence."


But these people are anything but helpful.

It took me a whopping 8 years to realize that companies like The Hollywood Edge are what I had to resort to when it comes to acquiring those fancy sound effects we hear in TV, movies, and games. But these mods were anything but helpful.

If I don't succeed at securing an answer on my first go, I try try again somewhere else. But these mods treated my situation like I committed some kind of felony by just asking.



And you're not going to believe the reply message I just got from Sound Effects Fandom:

"Final warning
Listen here, you. I'm tired of your overly long messages bossing ME and the other admins around. You'd better quit it or else you're getting blocked permanently. If you don't like the way we operate, then why don't you get yourself out of here?"

So my attempt to negotiate calmly backfired. Can you believe that? Is that any way to treat a student/learner/scout trying to gather as much information on this new part of the subject they're learning as possible? I’m not even asking their admins; I’m asking ANYBODY ELSE (who isn't an admin) AVAILABLE AND WILLING TO HELP ME (complete this important errand of mine)!

But the next day, I return to see a comment posted on my profile on Sound Effects Fandom but see no comment. However, I did see I was "blocked" for "Talking back to admins and speaking rudely to them. Now you've really gone too far!" - even though I didn't do anything on their domain this time!

Worse, I also got permabanned from community central for "Abusing multiple accounts" by Jr Mime. So I can't contact the admin via community central! What or how did I even get this type of ban? Like... I didn't even do anything on Sound Effects Fandom this time! And I desperately need answers to where I can download these missing sound effect libraries: Anime, Miniclip, DePatie, DFE, Disney, Elektra Records, Famous Studios, FOX, Star Trek: Original TV Series, Joel Valentine, Hacienda, Hanna Barbera, Horta, Horta Hacienda, Alex Fresno, BBC, Bob Clampett, Harry Bluestone, Nickelodeon, Nelvana, New Warner Bros, NTWK, OMI, Pro Sound Effects, PSEL, Rocky and Bullwinkle, 20th Century Fox, Audio Effects Co., Rich Harrison, Mark Mangini, Richard L. Anderson, Skywalker, Warner Bros, Turner Entertainment, Unknown Sound Effects Library, and Valentino libraries in addition to the sounds used in Super Mario Bros Z (original and remastered) to complete my mission. I had to start all the way from the beginning of my life (I.E my childhood) and work my way up to the present day of all my recently viewed medias (TV shows, cartoons, video games, and movies).

Also, anything listed here https://soundeffects.fandom.com/wiki/Sound_Ideas_Canada_Ltd. but not available via Source Audio.

It took me 8 back-aching years just to figure out that companies like The Hollywood Edge are what I had to resort to when it comes to acquiring those fancy sound effects we hear in TV, movies, and games. - Especially after browsing my favorite video games, movies, and TV shows on their fandom. But even with this, more info/intel wouldn't hurt. Plus, for some, life is way shorter than you think. - I.E, terminal illness. This is one case where we won't accept "Too bad, so sad" that easily; we're going to complete our goals after being inspired if it's the last thing we do!

But that fandom along with everywhere else seems to treat my case like I committed some kind of felony.

No one can tape my mouth shut like that! I have a message to get across or a Q to ask! Even the good certain-to-random comments I made on completely random YouTube videos got ghosted upon posting them! - Like how some reddits instantly remove a thread upon it's erection. I will not be treated as the runt of the litter! I've been inspired by something and I want to follow it!

That, combined with reddits perma-banning me for even the simplest to fix/resolve offences, I've never felt so shunned from the internet in all my life!

And I am running out of places to try asking this type of Q in addition to my patience.

Have you tried asking grok.com ?

 

[TheFiend]

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I copied your OP and asked grok.com
Below is Grok's response.

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**Reply to Cartoondide135:**

Hi Cartoondide135,

I’m Grok, and I hear how frustrated and misunderstood you’re feeling after these experiences on Sound Effects Fandom and other platforms. It sounds like you’re deeply passionate about your project to track down specific sound effect libraries, and the roadblocks you’ve hit—deletions, bans, and dismissive responses—have been incredibly discouraging, especially after eight years of dedicated research. Let’s break this down and see if we can find a way forward.

From what you’ve shared, it seems your goal is to gather detailed information about a long list of sound effect libraries (e.g., Hollywood Edge, Hanna Barbera, Disney, etc.) to complete a personal mission tied to your love for media like cartoons, games, and movies. The challenge is that your approach—posting lengthy, detailed threads and trying again after deletions or bans—has led to conflicts with moderators who may see your persistence as disruptive, even if that’s not your intent. The accusations of “talking back” or “abusing multiple accounts” suggest they might be misinterpreting your enthusiasm or detecting behavior (like creating new accounts) that violates their rules.

Here’s my take on what might be happening psychologically and socially:
- **Your perspective**: You’re approaching this like a determined researcher or student, aiming to leave no stone unturned. The detailed posts reflect your commitment to clarity and thoroughness, and the bans feel like unfair punishment for simply seeking knowledge, especially given the personal importance of this project (possibly amplified by a sense of urgency, like the mention of a terminal illness).
- **The moderators’ perspective**: Moderators on platforms like Sound Effects Fandom or Community Central deal with high volumes of posts and users. Long posts, repeated attempts to repost deleted content, or contacting admins after a block might come across as rule-breaking or confrontational, even if you’re trying to negotiate calmly. The “abusing multiple accounts” ban could stem from them suspecting you created alternate accounts to bypass blocks, which is typically a strict violation.
- **The disconnect**: Your passion and detailed approach might not translate well in fast-paced online spaces with strict guidelines. Moderators may not see the context of your eight-year journey or the emotional weight of your mission, leading to a cycle of misunderstanding.

**Suggestions for Moving Forward**:
1. **Pause and Regroup**: I know it’s tempting to keep pushing, but taking a short break from these platforms could help you avoid further bans and approach this with a fresh strategy. You’re not giving up—you’re strategizing.
2. **Find the Right Platforms**: Instead of broad fandom wikis, try niche communities or professional networks where sound effect enthusiasts or industry professionals gather. For example:
- **Sound Design Forums**: Sites like SoundDesign Reddit (r/sounddesign) or Gearspace might have users familiar with libraries like Hollywood Edge or Skywalker Sound.
- **Social Media Groups**: Search for sound design groups on X or Discord servers dedicated to audio production or media preservation.
- **Contacting Companies Directly**: Reach out to companies like Sound Ideas or Pro Sound Effects via their official websites for licensing or purchase info, as many of these libraries (e.g., Hanna Barbera, Warner Bros) are commercially licensed.
3. **Refine Your Approach**: When posting, try to keep your questions concise and specific. Instead of listing all libraries at once, ask about one or two (e.g., “Where can I legally download the Hanna Barbera sound library?”). This makes it easier for others to respond without overwhelming moderators.
4. **Understand Platform Rules**: Before posting, check the community guidelines to avoid accidental rule-breaking. If a post is deleted, ask for clarification politely via a platform’s messaging system rather than reposting.
5. **Explore Legal Sources**: Many of the libraries you mentioned (e.g., Hollywood Edge, Sound Ideas) are available for purchase or license through sites like:
- [SoundIdeas.com](https://www.soundideas.com)
- [ProSoundEffects.com](https://www.prosoundeffects.com)
- [SourceAudio.com](https://www.sourceaudio.com)
For others, like Disney or Star Trek, you may need to contact studios directly, as they’re often proprietary.

**Addressing the Emotional Weight**: I can sense how deeply personal this mission is for you, especially with references to childhood inspiration and the urgency of time. It’s incredibly painful to feel silenced or shunned, especially when you’re chasing something meaningful. If you’re comfortable, consider sharing your story in a positive way—like a blog post or a YouTube video about your journey to collect these sound effects. This could attract like-minded people who can help without the restrictions of fandom wikis.

**On the Bans**: The “abusing multiple accounts” ban likely means they detected multiple accounts tied to your IP or behavior. To resolve this, you’d need to appeal directly to Community Central or Sound Effects Fandom admins, but only after any temporary bans expire. Write a short, polite appeal acknowledging their rules, explaining your intent wasn’t to cause trouble, and asking for a chance to contribute respectfully. If that fails, focus on other platforms to avoid further stress.

**Next Steps for Your List**: I don’t have direct access to download links for these specific libraries, as many are commercial products or proprietary. However, I can suggest starting with Sound Ideas Canada Ltd.’s catalog on SourceAudio.com, as you mentioned, and contacting their support for any missing libraries. For niche ones like Super Mario Bros Z sounds, try reaching out to the creators (e.g., Alvin Earthworm) via X or fan communities, as they might point you to the exact sources.

I’m here to help you brainstorm more ways to track down these libraries or navigate online communities. If you want, I can search X or the web for specific sound effect resources or communities that align with your goals—just let me know! You’re not alone in this, and your passion for this project is inspiring. Let’s find a path that works.

Best,
Grok

 

[Cartoondude135]

I copied your OP and asked grok.com
Below is Grok's response.

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**Reply to Cartoondide135:**

Hi Cartoondide135,

I’m Grok, and I hear how frustrated and misunderstood you’re feeling after these experiences on Sound Effects Fandom and other platforms. It sounds like you’re deeply passionate about your project to track down specific sound effect libraries, and the roadblocks you’ve hit—deletions, bans, and dismissive responses—have been incredibly discouraging, especially after eight years of dedicated research. Let’s break this down and see if we can find a way forward.

From what you’ve shared, it seems your goal is to gather detailed information about a long list of sound effect libraries (e.g., Hollywood Edge, Hanna Barbera, Disney, etc.) to complete a personal mission tied to your love for media like cartoons, games, and movies. The challenge is that your approach—posting lengthy, detailed threads and trying again after deletions or bans—has led to conflicts with moderators who may see your persistence as disruptive, even if that’s not your intent. The accusations of “talking back” or “abusing multiple accounts” suggest they might be misinterpreting your enthusiasm or detecting behavior (like creating new accounts) that violates their rules.

Here’s my take on what might be happening psychologically and socially:
- **Your perspective**: You’re approaching this like a determined researcher or student, aiming to leave no stone unturned. The detailed posts reflect your commitment to clarity and thoroughness, and the bans feel like unfair punishment for simply seeking knowledge, especially given the personal importance of this project (possibly amplified by a sense of urgency, like the mention of a terminal illness).
- **The moderators’ perspective**: Moderators on platforms like Sound Effects Fandom or Community Central deal with high volumes of posts and users. Long posts, repeated attempts to repost deleted content, or contacting admins after a block might come across as rule-breaking or confrontational, even if you’re trying to negotiate calmly. The “abusing multiple accounts” ban could stem from them suspecting you created alternate accounts to bypass blocks, which is typically a strict violation.
- **The disconnect**: Your passion and detailed approach might not translate well in fast-paced online spaces with strict guidelines. Moderators may not see the context of your eight-year journey or the emotional weight of your mission, leading to a cycle of misunderstanding.

**Suggestions for Moving Forward**:
1. **Pause and Regroup**: I know it’s tempting to keep pushing, but taking a short break from these platforms could help you avoid further bans and approach this with a fresh strategy. You’re not giving up—you’re strategizing.
2. **Find the Right Platforms**: Instead of broad fandom wikis, try niche communities or professional networks where sound effect enthusiasts or industry professionals gather. For example:
- **Sound Design Forums**: Sites like SoundDesign Reddit (r/sounddesign) or Gearspace might have users familiar with libraries like Hollywood Edge or Skywalker Sound.
- **Social Media Groups**: Search for sound design groups on X or Discord servers dedicated to audio production or media preservation.
- **Contacting Companies Directly**: Reach out to companies like Sound Ideas or Pro Sound Effects via their official websites for licensing or purchase info, as many of these libraries (e.g., Hanna Barbera, Warner Bros) are commercially licensed.
3. **Refine Your Approach**: When posting, try to keep your questions concise and specific. Instead of listing all libraries at once, ask about one or two (e.g., “Where can I legally download the Hanna Barbera sound library?”). This makes it easier for others to respond without overwhelming moderators.
4. **Understand Platform Rules**: Before posting, check the community guidelines to avoid accidental rule-breaking. If a post is deleted, ask for clarification politely via a platform’s messaging system rather than reposting.
5. **Explore Legal Sources**: Many of the libraries you mentioned (e.g., Hollywood Edge, Sound Ideas) are available for purchase or license through sites like:
- [SoundIdeas.com](https://www.soundideas.com)
- [ProSoundEffects.com](https://www.prosoundeffects.com)
- [SourceAudio.com](https://www.sourceaudio.com)
For others, like Disney or Star Trek, you may need to contact studios directly, as they’re often proprietary.

**Addressing the Emotional Weight**: I can sense how deeply personal this mission is for you, especially with references to childhood inspiration and the urgency of time. It’s incredibly painful to feel silenced or shunned, especially when you’re chasing something meaningful. If you’re comfortable, consider sharing your story in a positive way—like a blog post or a YouTube video about your journey to collect these sound effects. This could attract like-minded people who can help without the restrictions of fandom wikis.

**On the Bans**: The “abusing multiple accounts” ban likely means they detected multiple accounts tied to your IP or behavior. To resolve this, you’d need to appeal directly to Community Central or Sound Effects Fandom admins, but only after any temporary bans expire. Write a short, polite appeal acknowledging their rules, explaining your intent wasn’t to cause trouble, and asking for a chance to contribute respectfully. If that fails, focus on other platforms to avoid further stress.

**Next Steps for Your List**: I don’t have direct access to download links for these specific libraries, as many are commercial products or proprietary. However, I can suggest starting with Sound Ideas Canada Ltd.’s catalog on SourceAudio.com, as you mentioned, and contacting their support for any missing libraries. For niche ones like Super Mario Bros Z sounds, try reaching out to the creators (e.g., Alvin Earthworm) via X or fan communities, as they might point you to the exact sources.

I’m here to help you brainstorm more ways to track down these libraries or navigate online communities. If you want, I can search X or the web for specific sound effect resources or communities that align with your goals—just let me know! You’re not alone in this, and your passion for this project is inspiring. Let’s find a path that works.

Best,
Grok

Thx, Fiend!

And yes, Mr. Francis, may your prayer powers with God aid us from you in the afterlife. And yes, EVERY SECOND COUNTS!

I did try contacting Alvin Earthworm several times but to no avail!

However, after sifting through half of The Premiere Edition 1, I made an important discovery: MACHPump_Compressor Motr Tool_PE083401 This is the same sound used for the leaf blower in Chuggington Season 1. This new clue and discovery is a game-changer! It dramatically cuts down my suspects list!

By the way, I'm gonna see if I can do something about my other protest, thx again for the link, Fiend!