What Does Everyone think about the Real ID / Star ID program/implementation?

What is you opinion on Homeland Securities Real ID program?

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Monica_L_DidNothingWrong

Monica_L_DidNothingWrong

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For those that are unaware (Taken from the Homeland Security Website):

FAQ Page: Real ID FAQ

The REAL ID Act establishes minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibits federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards. The purposes covered by the Act are: accessing federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and, boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced on December 20, 2013 a phased enforcement plan for the REAL ID Act (the Act), as passed by Congress, that will implement the Act in a measured, fair, and responsible way.

Secure driver's licenses and identification documents are a vital component of our national security framework. The REAL ID Act, passed by Congress in 2005, enacted the 9/11 Commission’s recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.” The Act established minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibits federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards.

DHS is committed to enforcing the REAL ID Act in accordance with the phased enforcement schedule and regulatory timeframes. It has been 16 years since the REAL ID Act was passed and half of all the states have already met the REAL ID minimum standards.
 
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Monica_L_DidNothingWrong said:
For those that are unaware (Taken from the Homeland Security Website):

FAQ Page: Real ID FAQ

The REAL ID Act establishes minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibits federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards. The purposes covered by the Act are: accessing federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and, boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced on December 20, 2013 a phased enforcement plan for the REAL ID Act (the Act), as passed by Congress, that will implement the Act in a measured, fair, and responsible way.

Secure driver's licenses and identification documents are a vital component of our national security framework. The REAL ID Act, passed by Congress in 2005, enacted the 9/11 Commission’s recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.” The Act established minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibits federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards.

DHS is committed to enforcing the REAL ID Act in accordance with the phased enforcement schedule and regulatory timeframes. It has been 16 years since the REAL ID Act was passed and half of all the states have already met the REAL ID minimum standards.
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I would like a chip placed next to my anal prints used for voting. That way I can mark of the beast more easily from my phone. You understand you dirty Lil slut?
 
I picked "Bad Choice," simply because RealID does not seem to provide any sort of tangible benefit. Like how about making our citizenship/residency status part of the RealID. It would be nice if I could just show my RealID drivers' license when I fill out a W-9 instead of digging up my social security card. God forbid the government make something fucking useful though.
 
Hoppo said:
I picked "Bad Choice," simply because RealID does not seem to provide any sort of tangible benefit. Like how about making our citizenship/residency status part of the RealID. It would be nice if I could just show my RealID drivers' license when I fill out a W-9 instead of digging up my social security card. God forbid the government make something fucking useful though.
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Yeah, good points. Not sure how it will help access to federal facilities, but I can see why they would want something like this for air travel
 
Monica_L_DidNothingWrong said:
Was going off of your profile picture xD
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Ahhahhaa. Gotcha. That is my dog peanut. She died when my house burned down. I used to have my ol boy cooper up. When we made the switch here i changed it.
This is my 130 lb black and tan. He doesnt have a bunch of tan
 

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PeytonMooning said:
So I can have stricter ID regulation to fly on a plane but not when I vote?
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Pretty much.
HiddenLakes said:
Just think about it. You won’t be able to travel internationally after October 2021 yet you don’t need anything to vote 🤷‍♂️
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Voting is handed by states where as air travel is federally regulated.

Two separate constitutional issues.
 
Dinkis14 said:
As someone who travels often, I love the idea. It should speed things up from those who can’t remember to turn the brightness in their phone up to scan their boarding pass.

I’m also not a conspiracy theorist, so most on here don’t want my opinion.
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I just see illegal mexicans operate daily w/o an id and wonder why in the fuck I am jumping through hoops to appease a bunch of beaurocratic ass wipes!!!
 
Dinkis14 said:
As someone who travels often, I love the idea. It should speed things up from those who can’t remember to turn the brightness in their phone up to scan their boarding pass.

I’m also not a conspiracy theorist, so most on here don’t want my opinion.
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I wish I could Phil this 100x
 
catfishpunter said:
It's an excellent idea. An ID should be trustworthy. I got a RealID in Oregon last week. I had to bring photo ID, an original document with my SSN on it, and multiple pieces of mail with my address on it. It's essentially the same requirements as a passport.

Should we move to require federal voter ID, a RealID would be an excellent way to eliminate voter fraud.
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I think its's a great idea, but each state would have to accept it as voter requirements. I know certain states would never want such a thing
 
Monica_L_DidNothingWrong said:
I think it definitely depends on the State/City. It took me several hours to get mine. But like some other people said it's very similar to the process of getting a passport
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I will say, I was on hold with the DMV (you had to make an appointment via phone only) for 40ish minutes. It’s archaic that you can’t make an appointment online in this state.
 
Dinkis14 said:
I will say, I was on hold with the DMV (you had to make an appointment via phone only) for 40ish minutes. It’s archaic that you can’t make an appointment online in this state.
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To be fair most Government websites suck. I'm not sure what the best way to handle it is, but the Government has always been behind commercial in implementing new technology
 
Monica_L_DidNothingWrong said:
For those that are unaware (Taken from the Homeland Security Website):

FAQ Page: Real ID FAQ

The REAL ID Act establishes minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibits federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards. The purposes covered by the Act are: accessing federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and, boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced on December 20, 2013 a phased enforcement plan for the REAL ID Act (the Act), as passed by Congress, that will implement the Act in a measured, fair, and responsible way.

Secure driver's licenses and identification documents are a vital component of our national security framework. The REAL ID Act, passed by Congress in 2005, enacted the 9/11 Commission’s recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.” The Act established minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibits federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards.

DHS is committed to enforcing the REAL ID Act in accordance with the phased enforcement schedule and regulatory timeframes. It has been 16 years since the REAL ID Act was passed and half of all the states have already met the REAL ID minimum standards.
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My only concern is that its a Trojan Horse for a sweeping federally controlled nationally database that would make 1984 look like a Disney movie.
 
Dinkis14 said:
I will say, I was on hold with the DMV (you had to make an appointment via phone only) for 40ish minutes. It’s archaic that you can’t make an appointment online in this state.
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The Corona virus hit the DMV especially hard in Oklahoma. Have to make an appointment which sometimes 2 months out, then they will have an outbreak or a snow storm and have to shut down for a couple days.

I had a hell of a time getting my 16 yr old a permit.
 

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