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Has the correction already happened or are we headed for bear territory? What do you think and why?

My gut tells me the market has corrected and is going to be bouncing back. Even if it gets worse from here, I still would think it’s a good time to grab some SP500, but keep some cash on the side
 

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I am betting on a free fall, moved my 401k into a conservative investing model a few months ago.
Good call. How conservative are you? I’m 100% stonks in my 401k accounts and am staying that way through think and thin.

I sold all my energy stocks in my Roth on Friday. I did half of them (energy) a month ago and bought nasdaq. Hasn’t played out too well. I’m still actually about broke even on that though because I bought a decent dip
 

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Good call. How conservative are you? I’m 100% stonks in my 401k accounts and am staying that way through think and thin.

I sold all my energy stocks in my Roth on Friday. I did half of them (energy) a month ago and bought nasdaq. Hasn’t played out too well. I’m still actually about broke even on that though because I bought a decent dip
Ours just had options for conservative, moderately conservative something else and aggressive or something. These are not things I pretend to understand.
 

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Ours just had options for conservative, moderately conservative something else and aggressive or something. These are not things I pretend to understand.
It’s good to be honest. Either way, good play for you. Now the trick is knowing when to go back aggressive
 

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I do know one thing about raising interest rates... it can be a market killer.

Greenspan single-handedly popped the 2000 bubble by simply raising rates.

Of course the rates are rising now for a different reason, so the effect may not be so dramatic.

I hope.
 

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Think we may have hit the temporary bottom today. Bought a bunch of UPRO (3x spx) and looking for an rally the rest of this week.

Fed meeting Wednesday. If they only hike .50 point like is almost certain then have some dovish statements by Powell we could see a bounce.

🤞
 

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I do know one thing about raising interest rates... it can be a market killer.

Greenspan single-handedly popped the 2000 bubble by simply raising rates.

Of course the rates are rising now for a different reason, so the effect may not be so dramatic.

I hope.
Rates have been very sneaky rising in the background. We are gonna be 4% by the end of the year
 

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Think we may have hit the temporary bottom today. Bought a bunch of UPRO (3x spx) and looking for an rally the rest of this week.

Fed meeting Wednesday. If they only hike .50 point like is almost certain then have some dovish statements by Powell we could see a bounce.

🤞
I’m with you. The bubble doesn’t pop when everyone thinks it’s going to pop. Never has. Corporations did a shitload to cut overhead the last few years. We’ve had a strong correction in the tech sector. Think we are going to go on a run

Trust me, I run an Internet forum (but I do think this)
 

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Rates have been very sneaky rising in the background. We are gonna be 4% by the end of the year
I'd think it could go up to 5.5 if markets stay hot.
We doubled our credit line which is scary. If it all goes to shit id be homeless again. Ot is why I won't get rid of my camper from the fire days
 

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Looking at a .50 point raise today. I think the fed funds futures are predicting something like a 99% chance of that happening. The key will of course Powells tone in the comments and questioning afterwards.

I think we may get a sell off either before or just after the release and then finish the day with a power rally. We will see.
 

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Think we may have hit the temporary bottom today. Bought a bunch of UPRO (3x spx) and looking for an rally the rest of this week.

Fed meeting Wednesday. If they only hike .50 point like is almost certain then have some dovish statements by Powell we could see a bounce.

🤞

I’m with you. The bubble doesn’t pop when everyone thinks it’s going to pop. Never has. Corporations did a shitload to cut overhead the last few years. We’ve had a strong correction in the tech sector. Think we are going to go on a run

Trust me, I run an Internet forum (but I do think this)


Nice call @Croot_Overlord

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Looking at a .50 point raise today. I think the fed funds futures are predicting something like a 99% chance of that happening. The key will of course Powells tone in the comments and questioning afterwards.

I think we may get a sell off either before or just after the release and then finish the day with a power rally. We will see.


Its nice when you get one right

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I like this discussion between Kathie Wood and Elon musk regarding passive vs active investing. Not sure where I stand on the topic.

Buffet et all preach index investing and he famously won a 10 year bet for $1mm vs a hedge fund manager.

Musk suggests more of an active management style.

The thing is Buffet et all got rich by actively managing. But to the masses passive investing probably is the safer and higher probability bet. I do think the /wallstreetbets crowd and the younger generations are bigger risk takers and as a whole are more active investors than my generation was. Do they see the previous government bailouts and recognize they have a backstop? Was my generation just a bunch of pussies? Has technology allowed new products that weren't available in my generation?

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it's my fault. I bot NFLX at 220.

I knew better to not buy ahead of interest rate hikes, but the P/E was already down to reasonable levels a month ago. I wanted to buy the sudden dip in the hopes that it would recover quickly.
 

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it's my fault. I bot NFLX at 220.

I knew better to not buy ahead of interest rate hikes, but the P/E was already down to reasonable levels a month ago. I wanted to buy the sudden dip in the hopes that it would recover quickly.
Also known as catching the falling knife ...

I was right there with you and bought NFLX at $220 also. Will be holding that one for a while it seems.
 

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It’s so brutal. My choices over the last month are kickin me in the nuts

Meh, the price fluctuations are just noise. The only time i care about price is when i retire and am looking to cash in. I still have 15 more years minimum and i feel confident that in 15 years stock indexes will be higher than they are now.

No matter how many times you hear it, buy low sell high is hard to do.

Stay the course, invest in index funds or your favorite companies that make great products.
 
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