Societal collapse by 2040? An old article, now with new data seems to think so.

[CurtOFD78]

I found this article on another website that I read and it was interesting enough of a concept to click the article. CLIFFS: An MIT researcher in 1972 predicted that in the mid 21st century we would experience a stop of growth with numerous other factors contributing to what the author calls a collapse of society as we know it. Now with nearly 50 years of data, the prediction seems to be on track to come to fruition. What are ya'lls thoughts?

MIT Predicted in 1972 That Society Will Collapse This Century. New Research Shows We’re on Schedule.

A 1972 MIT study predicted that rapid economic growth would lead to societal collapse in the mid 21st century. A new paper shows we’re unfortunately right on schedule.

www.vice.com

 

[imprimis]

I doubt I will be around to see it.

 

[quickfeet]

Moon wobble in 2023 ends life as we know it

 

[skramer100]

Moon wobble in 2023 ends life as we know it

I just Ducked this cause I was hoping I would be ocean front. It happens every 18 years and we gonna make a big deal out of it? I really was excited for ocean front, damnit.

 

[GarnetPild]

I just Ducked this cause I was hoping I would be ocean front. It happens every 18 years and we gonna make a big deal out of it? I really was excited for ocean front, damnit.

There is a thread on it, probably why it was mentioned-

Moon Wobble coming in 2023 that will cause devastating flooding

https://www.chron.com/news/weather/article/NASA-moon-wobble-flooding-texas-coast-16314489.php

thefreespeechforum.com

The article cracks me up. Typical click bait. Totally cyclical, they actually try to claim it will be worse this time though...

"What’s new is how one of the wobble’s effects on the Moon’s gravitational pull – the main cause of Earth’s tides – will combine with rising sea levels resulting from the planet’s warming," NASA says.


1st off, "NASA says"??? Who the fuck is NASA?

Also, rising sea levels? How much have they risen since the last cycle? Like a quarter inch? So the flooding will be a quarter inch deeper?! God I hate almost every article these days. Just bullshit click bait, probably written by a bot.

 

[Viking]

The old rising seas argument.

 

[Long Cat V2.0]

There is a thread on it, probably why it was mentioned-

Moon Wobble coming in 2023 that will cause devastating flooding

https://www.chron.com/news/weather/article/NASA-moon-wobble-flooding-texas-coast-16314489.php

thefreespeechforum.com

The article cracks me up. Typical click bait. Totally cyclical, they actually try to claim it will be worse this time though...

"What’s new is how one of the wobble’s effects on the Moon’s gravitational pull – the main cause of Earth’s tides – will combine with rising sea levels resulting from the planet’s warming," NASA says.


1st off, "NASA says"??? Who the fuck is NASA?

Also, rising sea levels? How much have they risen since the last cycle? Like a quarter inch? So the flooding will be a quarter inch deeper?! God I hate almost every article these days. Just bullshit click bait, probably written by a bot.

That’s interesting consider that nasa has their main launch facility on an island an elevation of like 1’.

 

[ChicagoFats]

Next thing you know, the Ozone layer will be gone, and the polar ice caps will melt.

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

the US does give me hope that worst come to worst a peaceful secession can take place. The left and right are so different rn culturally that there’s no way that rift is bridged

 

[America 1st]

the US does give me hope that worst come to worst a peaceful secession can take place. The left and right are so different rn culturally that there’s no way that rift is bridged

This is the only thing secessionists deserve.

If people don't like it here they're welcome to go somewhere else. I'd say the same thing to Ilhan Omar and any other radical suggesting radical changes to our republic.

 

[hmt5000]

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This is the only thing secessionists deserve.

If people don't like it here they're welcome to go somewhere else. I'd say the same thing to Ilhan Omar and any other radical suggesting radical changes to our republic.

So if the left gets their way and we go 100% opposite of a constitutional republic and the government rounds up "enemies of the state".... You still think that? What if they won't let you leave with your toys.... which socialist countries are 100% prone to do? Just leave and forget all the years you and your family have worked to get what you got?

 

[America 1st]

So if the left gets their way and we go 100% opposite of a constitutional republic and the government rounds up "enemies of the state".... You still think that? What if they won't let you leave with your toys.... which socialist countries are 100% prone to do? Just leave and forget all the years you and your family have worked to get what you got?

People are lucky they're even able to leave when they want. That's not very common in states across this globe regardless of being able to take property or not.

You can count me in the never leaving group though. America is too great.

The enemy of the state & loading them on trains rubbish is just that.

It would be much more likely a state like California would try to secede and we would need step in remind them that's no bueno.

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

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This is the only thing secessionists deserve.

If people don't like it here they're welcome to go somewhere else. I'd say the same thing to Ilhan Omar and any other radical suggesting radical changes to our republic.

You wouldn’t go anywhere else, you would rely on your state infrastructure and severely limit the bargaining power of the federal gov

You don’t seem to be much of a creative problem solver with how we get out of this political polarization peacefully aside from just loading innocents on trains

 

[America 1st]

You wouldn’t go anywhere else, you would rely on your state infrastructure and severely limit the bargaining power of the federal gov

You don’t seem to be much of a creative problem solver with how we get out of this political polarization peacefully aside from just loading innocents on trains

There is no need to "get out of it peacefully".

Secession is just creating a problem in an attempt to "solve" a made up problem of "political polarization".

Again, if you think things are so divided or bad then it's on you to walk away or to do the hard work of solving things within the system.

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

There is no need to "get out of it peacefully".

Secession is just creating a problem in an attempt to "solve" a made up problem of "political polarization".

Again, if you think things are so divided or bad then it's on you to walk away.

Ahhhhhh now I see, so you don’t talk to any left wingers at all…. The whole America’s first puzzle finally makes sense now

 

[America 1st]

Ahhhhhh now I see, so you don’t talk to any left wingers at all…. The whole America’s first puzzle finally makes sense now

No I talk to plenty. Difference in political opinion doesn't mean to just get to bitch out.

 

[JordanPetersHorn]

No I talk to plenty. Difference in political opinion doesn't mean to just get to bitch out.

I’m more just realizing you’re not a guy that ever goes outside your box of acceptable opinion at all. Your anger at all secession or even any sort of line against pulling power away from the feds makes no sense to me, especially given you admitting in another thread “all leftists just want me dead these days.” There’s space in the middle to have a conversation, but you literally post civil war generals and liken it to “bitching out” immediately

I don’t know if it’s just you enjoy arguing or when you have a point you like to stick to it or what, but you don’t really understand how discussions work

 

[America 1st]

I’m more just realizing you’re not a guy that ever goes outside your box of acceptable opinion at all. Your anger at all secession or even any sort of line against pulling power away from the feds makes no sense to me, especially given you admitting in another thread “all leftists just want me dead these days.” There’s space in the middle to have a conversation, but you literally post civil war generals and liken it to “bitching out” immediately

I don’t know if it’s just you enjoy arguing or when you have a point you like to stick to it or what, but you don’t really understand how discussions work

Why do you believe I need to accept secession?

Discussion involves people sharing their opinions and in my opinion that's the worst thing that could happen to this country. There is *ZERO* room for that to exist even in consideration.

Furthermore, lefties wanting me dead isn't an excuse to bitch out. People have been having crazy political opinions since this country was founded; it's why The Founders created a republic where the minority had rights.

If you don't like my opinion that's fine, we can agree to disagree.

 

[Cre8ive]

Why do you believe I need to accept secession?

Discussion involves people sharing their opinions and in my opinion that's the worst thing that could happen to this country. There is *ZERO* room for that to exist even in consideration.

Furthermore, lefties wanting me dead isn't an excuse to bitch out. People have been having crazy political opinions since this country was founded; it's why The Founders created a republic where the minority had rights.

If you don't like my opinion that's fine, we can agree to disagree.

"If you don't like my opinion that's fine, we can agree to disagree."

The BOTTOM LINE of TFSF!

 

[hmt5000]

People are lucky they're even able to leave when they want. That's not very common in states across this globe regardless of being able to take property or not.

You can count me in the never leaving group though. America is too great.

The enemy of the state & loading them on trains rubbish is just that.

It would be much more likely a state like California would try to secede and we would need step in remind them that's no bueno.

We are just going to disagree on this. I don't consider myself lucky that I can leave if my constitutional republic is turned into a socialist hell hole. America isn't great because of the longitude and latitude on a map. Its our constitution and the free market that makes this piece of land great. Take those 2 things away and it'll be just as bad here as Venezuela within a decade.

If you are left with leave or fight the socialist then I'd fight before I'd leave. But if enough people are in the "aw shucks, we lost and we just have to live with it because... muh democracy".... Leaving is gonna hurt wayyy less in the long run.

 

[America 1st]

We are just going to disagree on this. I don't consider myself lucky that I can leave if my constitutional republic is turned into a socialist hell hole. America isn't great because of the longitude and latitude on a map. Its our constitution and the free market that makes this piece of land great. Take those 2 things away and it'll be just as bad here as Venezuela within a decade.

If you are left with leave or fight the socialist then I'd fight before I'd leave. But if enough people are in the "aw shucks, we lost and we just have to live with it because... muh democracy".... Leaving is gonna hurt wayyy less in the long run.

That's fine. I don't mind viewing things differently especially with regards to our right to leave the republic.

I don't mind the idea of fighting for the country if the socialists are trying to overthrow The Constitution or whatever. That's part of the reason I feel the way I do about secession.

ANY attempt to dissolve the Union and our Constitution is an attack on We The People.

 

[hmt5000]

That's fine. I don't mind viewing things differently especially with regards to our right to leave the republic.

I don't mind the idea of fighting for the country if the socialists are trying to overthrow The Constitution or whatever. That's part of the reason I feel the way I do about secession.

ANY attempt to dissolve the Union and our Constitution is an attack on We The People.

In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


Im just glad that some old dead dudes thought different.

 

[BLatta12]

See Thursday’s Podcast that hit on this topic with the segment titled “A United America”

 

[America 1st]

In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.


Im just glad that some old dead dudes thought different.

They really didn't though.

Those same dudes later wrote The Constitution and it's doesn't say anything about dissolving it or states being able to leave it.

It's pretty clear they didn't feel those words and sympathies applied to The Constitution and especially not because a small minority didn't like the current state of affairs.

 

[Raiderred1974]

Ahhhhhh now I see, so you don’t talk to any left wingers at all…. The whole America’s first puzzle finally makes sense now

I’ve had a few arguments with this guy and I hope that he doesn’t really believe what he writes. If he does he will be the first one in line to get on the train to the concentration camps and gas chambers.

 

[Raiderred1974]

That's fine. I don't mind viewing things differently especially with regards to our right to leave the republic.

I don't mind the idea of fighting for the country if the socialists are trying to overthrow The Constitution or whatever. That's part of the reason I feel the way I do about secession.

ANY attempt to dissolve the Union and our Constitution is an attack on We The People.

Do you not pay attention to what is happening right now. They are trying to overthrow The Constitution and it might just come down to war and the result of that war might just be the formation of two countries which will require secession.

 

[Albert Swinestein]

That's fine. I don't mind viewing things differently especially with regards to our right to leave the republic.

I don't mind the idea of fighting for the country if the socialists are trying to overthrow The Constitution or whatever. That's part of the reason I feel the way I do about secession.

ANY attempt to dissolve the Union and our Constitution is an attack on We The People.

The Marxist left have been attacking our constitution since 1917 if not earlier. They’re getting more aggressive every day. The Freedom loving Patriots of this great nation have to fight back now or this country is toast!

 

[America 1st]

The Marxist left have been attacking our constitution since 1917 if not earlier. They’re getting more aggressive every day. The Freedom loving Patriots of this great nation have to fight back now or this country is toast!

Agreed.

This is why Trump and the America 1st movement is such a big deal.

 

[America 1st]

Do you not pay attention to what is happening right now. They are trying to overthrow The Constitution and it might just come down to war and the result of that war might just be the formation of two countries which will require secession.

I really don't think their goal is the formation of two separate countries regardless of what you think their intentions are about The Constitution.

Certainly if they would try to form a separate country it would be our job to treat that the same way Sherman did Georgia.

If someone calling themselves a "conservative" or "patriot" is making such a suggestion then it's just a lazy troll. Patriots love the country they actually live in, not some imaginary secessionist land and no "conservative" wouldn't want to preserve The United States. It might have some flaws, including some difference in political opinion, but this is still BY FAR the greatest country on earth.