Rare earth minerals

[America 1st]

China Joe gonna China Joe

 

[TJHall1]

What are these minerals?

 

[poke2001]

China Joe gonna China Joe

To be fair, Trump was likely going to leave as well. Probably wouldn’t have just picked up and left in the middle of the night, but we were leaving.

 

[poke2001]

What are these minerals?

Lots of things needed for battery technologies as well as electronics. Nothing we really need…

 

[America 1st]

To be fair, Trump was likely going to leave as well. Probably wouldn’t have just picked up and left in the middle of the night, but we were leaving.

There wasn't a chip shortage either oddly enough...

 

[poke2001]

There wasn't a chip shortage either oddly enough...

There are nearly unlimited things to blame Biden and the left for, but the chip shortage is not one of them.

 

[America 1st]

There are nearly unlimited things to blame Biden and the left for, but the chip shortage is not one of them.

Whether we agree on that or not it's his job to fix it and to protect our interests.

Certainly nobody would believe he is behaving appropriately in that regard on this topic.

 

[poke2001]

Whether we agree on that or not it's his job to fix it and to protect our interests.

Certainly nobody would believe he is behaving appropriately in that regard on this topic.

There is very little the US government can or should do to fix this issue. It is a market issue and should be kept in the markets.

 

[America 1st]

There is very little the US government can or should do to fix this issue. It is a market issue and should be kept in the markets.

Agree to disagree.

 

[AmericanViking]

There are nearly unlimited things to blame Biden and the left for, but the chip shortage is not one of them.

I bought some Ruffles the other day. They had several bags.

 

[Rebarcock.]

What are these minerals?

Primarily lithium in buttfukistan. There are others but they claim a trillion dollars in unmined lithium

 

[America 1st]

What are these minerals?

It's what they use to make advanced electronics and contain nuclear isotopes.

 

[TJHall1]

It's what they use to make advanced electronics and contain nuclear isotopes.

Isn't it funny that the key to all this technology is rocks?

 

[poke2001]

Agree to disagree.

You want the government, specifically Biden, in the middle of the electronics chip market directing traffic?

I’ll take less government.

 

[America 1st]

You want the government, specifically Biden, in the middle of the electronics chip market directing traffic?

I’ll take less government.

The military for certain components? Absolutely.

The government doesn't have to control the whole market to subsidize the manufacturing of chips stateside like they do countless other products. It's really pretty obscene that they don't as a matter of national / economic security if nothing else.

The whole "less government" / "free trade" is reckless especially when communist China is the one being traded with / benefitting from the situation.

 

[Overwatch]

Isn't it funny that the key to all this technology is rocks?

The key to most technology is rocks. And petrol/NG. And the air.

Those three components are what make technologies.

 

[TJHall1]

The key to most technology is rocks. And petrol/NG. And the air.

Those three components are what make technologies.

And brains.

 

[poke2001]

The military for certain components? Absolutely.

The government doesn't have to control the whole market to subsidize the manufacturing of chips stateside like they do countless other products. It's really pretty obscene that they don't as a matter of national / economic security if nothing else.

The whole "less government" / "free trade" is reckless especially when communist China is the one being traded with / benefitting from the situation.

The US isn’t set up to manufacture volumes of these chips for commercial application. Military is not affected at this point in time. They don’t use commercial chips.

 

[America 1st]

The US isn’t set up to manufacture volumes of these chips for commercial application. Military is not affected at this point in time. They don’t use commercial chips.

Commercial chips are only one facet of this and the military needs to be able to have all their products manufactured domestically. It shouldn't really be controversial.

Of course the US isn't set up to do it currently since they don't try. Stupid fucks think it's a good idea to rely on Taiwan and China to make this process happen when obviously they should be made here stateside.

 

[Cletusnow]

Whether we agree on that or not it's his job to fix it and to protect our interests.

Certainly nobody would believe he is behaving appropriately in that regard on this topic.

No it’s not his or any presidents job to ‘fix’ anything.

 

[America 1st]

No it’s not his or any presidents job to ‘fix’ anything.

Agree to disagree.

If there is a shortage of a vital product in the US economy then I would expect the US government to act to protect the security, interests, and prosperity of it's citizens and their economy. Its one of government's roles according to The Founders.

 

[RKirkD]

So let me get this straight, we’re there for what 20 years and lost countless US lives, and we didn’t mine a plug nickel of rare earth minerals or set up contracts to do so? Nothing??? Too busy protecting the poppy fields so the dirty ass CIA would have enough heroin to sell? Holy shit our entire government is corrupt and dumb as fuck.

 

[Cletusnow]

Agree to disagree.

If there is a shortage of a vital product in the US economy then I would expect the US government to act to protect the security, interests, and prosperity of it's citizens and their economy. Its one of government's roles according to The Founders.

Please splain and cite.

 

[tiderollsonu]

What are these minerals?

Lots of things needed for battery technologies as well as electronics. Nothing we really need…

Uranium and Lithium among the most important.

 

[America 1st]

Please splain and cite.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Well the above is a good start...

If you need a more specific example then look no further than farming subsidies based on their vital role in the economy in ensuring domestic tranquility & promoting the general welfare.

In 2021, with the tech age upon us, these chips and minerals are no different other than they provide for the common defense as well.

 

[Cletusnow]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Well the above is a good start...

If you need a more specific example then look no further than farming subsidies based on their vital role in the economy in ensuring domestic tranquility & promoting the general welfare.

In 2021, with the tech age upon us, these chips and minerals are no different other than they provide for the common defense as well.

I can find nothing about getting the ‘shit’ we need in:

Article One of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

…not one of the enumerated powers of the federal government.
…and your farm subsidies example is also unconstitutional.

 

[America 1st]

I can find nothing about getting the ‘shit’ we need in:

Article One of the United States Constitution - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

…not one of the enumerated powers of the federal government.
…and your farm subsidies example is also unconstitutional.

Maybe in your opinion but for now they're legal, constitutional, and happening so

 

[Cletusnow]

Maybe in your opinion but for now they're legal, constitutional, and happening so

The constitution is plain and understandable for the layman for good reason. Corrupt court decisions and bastardized legislation do not change the text and meaning.
I guess unconstitutional is ok if it meets your needs.

 

[America 1st]

The constitution is plain and understandable for the layman for good reason. Corrupt court decisions and bastardized legislation do not change the text and meaning.
I guess unconstitutional is ok if it meets your needs.

Section 8 of article I clearly makes what I'm describing reasonable and constitutional. Stop being obtuse:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[Cletusnow]

Section 8 of article I clearly makes what I'm describing reasonable and constitutional. Stop being obtuse:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Key words ‘the Congress’ not the President. And the general welfare clause is defining what can be done with taxes collected.
Try again.

 

[Cletusnow]

Maybe in your opinion but for now they're legal, constitutional, and happening so

Got it. When they pass the Exterminate White People Act it will be as you say ‘legal, constitutional, and happening so’.

 

[America 1st]

Key words ‘the Congress’ not the President. And the general welfare clause is defining what can be done with taxes collected.
Try again.

Do you think they are going to use hopes and dreams to subsidize something?

Also

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[America 1st]

Got it. When they pass the Exterminate White People Act it will be as you say ‘legal, constitutional, and happening so’.

Looks like someone is a lil Russelled after their civics lesson.

Spoiler

 

[Jayhacker]

Joe and Hunter will get their % from China either way.

 

[Cletusnow]

Looks like someone is a lil Russelled after their civics lesson.

Spoiler

No intelligent retort is a sure sign someone is wrong. You basic premise that a law, because passed by congress, signed by the Prez, and upheld by a court is constitutional is a load of crap. And you know it!

 

[Cletusnow]

Looks like someone is a lil Russelled after their civics lesson.

Spoiler

By your logic we should decimate the earth and its people to acquire whatever we need for the general welfare. So long as we do it with legally collected taxes, and the government tells us it’s ok.

 

[America 1st]

No intelligent retort is a sure sign someone is wrong. You basic premise that a law, because passed by congress, signed by the Prez, and upheld by a court is constitutional is a load of crap. And you know it!

I'm the one giving you intellectually honest responses.

Yore the one talking about the "Exterminate White People Act"...

Furthermore, if Congress passes it, the POTUS signs it, and the SCOTUS upholds it then it is in fact constitutional so again I'm gonna guess civics isn't yore forte.

 

[America 1st]

By your logic we should decimate the earth and its people to acquire whatever we need for the general welfare. So long as we do it with legally collected taxes, and the government tells us it’s ok.

Spoiler

America, and We The People who compose it, have a Manifest Destiny in this universe.

 

[Cletusnow]

Spoiler

America, and We The People who compose it, have a Manifest Destiny in this universe.

You can’t be helped. Tyranny loves people like you.

 

[America 1st]

You can’t be helped. Tyranny loves people like you.

"No intelligent retort is a sure sign someone is wrong".