Welcome!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

SignUp Now!

How many people have quit at your place of business?

shiv

John
Administrator
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
13,743
Had another one turn in papers today. It is getting ugly. And while everyone else gets stressed out about it I just think the incompetence that is created is hilarious.

But I guess the point being made is that businesses in the software/engineering field in Huntsville, the new greatest city in America, cannot hold on to anyone. And it seems to be happening everywhere and accelerating by the day. I almost just want to quit and find a new job to make it worse lol
 

LVRebel

GIF specialist
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2020
Messages
2,969
Had another one turn in papers today. It is getting ugly. And while everyone else gets stressed out about it I just think the incompetence that is created is hilarious.

But I guess the point being made is that businesses in the software/engineering field in Huntsville, the new greatest city in America, cannot hold on to anyone. And it seems to be happening everywhere and accelerating by the day. I almost just want to quit and find a new job to make it worse lol
I'm kind of ready to take on a new trade, but I have no idea what. Got any ideas on a different career path for an engineer who wants to jump into something else?
 

ttyh

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
3,753
Had another one turn in papers today. It is getting ugly. And while everyone else gets stressed out about it I just think the incompetence that is created is hilarious.

But I guess the point being made is that businesses in the software/engineering field in Huntsville, the new greatest city in America, cannot hold on to anyone. And it seems to be happening everywhere and accelerating by the day. I almost just want to quit and find a new job to make it worse lol

My primary income comes from Tech Recruiting in the Software Engineering space. I work as an Independent now with a few select clients who are more friends than clients. I've never seen a market like this and I have been in the recruiting industry for about 22 years. Luckily for me, I can turn the open for business sign on and off at my discretion so when I get completely frustrated, I shut her down for a few weeks to recharge.

I currently have an offer out to a gal who we have been interviewing for the past month. When I first contacted her, $240k total target compensation was more than agreeable to her. Now that she has been interviewing for the past month, that number has risen to north of $300k. These are the times I shut her down for a bit.

Craziest market I have ever seen. I see the FANG companies and places like Blackrock and Citadel pricing all of the top talent out of the market for the mid sized and mom and pop shops. It mirrors the willful destruction of the middle class we are witnessing right now with inflation, etc. All of the fuckery seems aligned and coordinated to me.
 

ttyh

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
3,753
I'm kind of ready to take on a new trade, but I have no idea what. Got any ideas on a different career path for an engineer who wants to jump into something else?


Funny you mention this. I have been going through a similar thought process regarding what I want to do, knowing Tech Recruiting has about burnt out for me. I've been exploring welding classes. A good friend owns a mechanic shop and he has invited me into his shop for some introductory lessons on TIG welding. Hoping to begin that in the next couple of weeks.
 

Hoppo

Elite
Founder
Joined
Jan 12, 2021
Messages
896
Seriously this is going to be the weirdest recession ever. It should stunt this insane job hopping (tech is ridiculous right now). But will actual employment levels be all that impacted? Seems like the first step would be shedding planned headcount additions, and by the time companies have implemented and absorbed that strategy it is likely we’ll be back in an expansionary mode again. It’s like this time demand needs to be rightsized to match supply instead of the inverse.
 

shiv

John
Administrator
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
13,743
My primary income comes from Tech Recruiting in the Software Engineering space. I work as an Independent now with a few select clients who are more friends than clients. I've never seen a market like this and I have been in the recruiting industry for about 22 years. Luckily for me, I can turn the open for business sign on and off at my discretion so when I get completely frustrated, I shut her down for a few weeks to recharge.

I currently have an offer out to a gal who we have been interviewing for the past month. When I first contacted her, $240k total target compensation was more than agreeable to her. Now that she has been interviewing for the past month, that number has risen to north of $300k. These are the times I shut her down for a bit.

Craziest market I have ever seen. I see the FANG companies and places like Blackrock and Citadel pricing all of the top talent out of the market for the mid sized and mom and pop shops. It mirrors the willful destruction of the middle class we are witnessing right now with inflation, etc. All of the fuckery seems aligned and coordinated to me.
So is she going to get what she wants? What’s the rough salary equivalent to $240k and $300k assuming standard fringe?
 

shiv

John
Administrator
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
13,743
It is kind of spinning out of control where I work. I was in the office with the senior manager for the program I am working and he buried his face in his hands and said it’s all coming unraveled.

At the same time, technology has taken a generational step forward (mainly do to sheer amounts of data we can store and operate on) and people have no fucking idea how the work force needs to be shaping to adapt to that.

I don’t like to see people suffer and will work hard to help my team, but I throughly enjoy when stuff like this happens because I create a ton leverage for myself. Chaos creates opportunity and the more people depend on you the more leverage you have.
 

Hoppo

Elite
Founder
Joined
Jan 12, 2021
Messages
896
My primary income comes from Tech Recruiting in the Software Engineering space. I work as an Independent now with a few select clients who are more friends than clients. I've never seen a market like this and I have been in the recruiting industry for about 22 years. Luckily for me, I can turn the open for business sign on and off at my discretion so when I get completely frustrated, I shut her down for a few weeks to recharge.

I currently have an offer out to a gal who we have been interviewing for the past month. When I first contacted her, $240k total target compensation was more than agreeable to her. Now that she has been interviewing for the past month, that number has risen to north of $300k. These are the times I shut her down for a bit.

Craziest market I have ever seen. I see the FANG companies and places like Blackrock and Citadel pricing all of the top talent out of the market for the mid sized and mom and pop shops. It mirrors the willful destruction of the middle class we are witnessing right now with inflation, etc. All of the fuckery seems aligned and coordinated to me.
It’s really more the VC-funded growth companies that have fucked up the devs market. Seems like capital is drying up for orgs with sketchy business models. I know at my company we’re getting more CVs than we were. Still challenging to hire, but at least I think we stop seeing new hires coming in and bailing for better jobs after 90 days.
 

ttyh

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
3,753
So is she going to get what she wants? What’s the rough salary equivalent to $240k and $300k assuming standard fringe?

She's ghosting me right now. She did lay out a pretty intricate framework for her ghosting, though. I'll give her credit. She claimed she had eye surgery on Friday and would be incapacitated for a few days during recovery. It's now Wednesday and I haven't heard from her. It's the ghosting part of this market that makes me pause and step away.
 

Hoppo

Elite
Founder
Joined
Jan 12, 2021
Messages
896
She's ghosting me right now. She did lay out a pretty intricate framework for her ghosting, though. I'll give her credit. She claimed she had eye surgery on Friday and would be incapacitated for a few days during recovery. It's now Wednesday and I haven't heard from her. It's the ghosting part of this market that makes me pause and step away.
Wtf is her level of experience to demand that kind of salary?
 

PleasureMoose

Legendary
Joined
Aug 18, 2021
Messages
3,282
I'm kind of ready to take on a new trade, but I have no idea what. Got any ideas on a different career path for an engineer who wants to jump into something else?
its getting so hard to hire people to work let alone keep them there once they're hired.

lot of employers will pay you to learn a new a trade on the job now..that's what I'm doing. Quit my job in sales after 10+ years back during the pandemic. now I'm setting up and operating multiple CNC machines in a plant

did a complete 180 in trades and still making the same if not more with zero experience coming in.. just gotta take a leap of faith and trust yourself aka fake it till you make it..shit aint hard
 

hmt5000

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 10, 2020
Messages
6,485
I've been debating starting a small engine repair shop. I just got my lawnmower fixed and it was $160. If i'd of known for sure what was wrong I would of done it myself but I was afraid I'd buy a part I didn't need... but

It would be work from March to Nov. That would give me 3.5 months off to go kick it FL or the Rockies. Nobody does this shit anymore so I'd have plenty of work. The place I went to had 14 mowers parked in their "fixed" lot and about 20 in their "to be fixed" area. I could work 4 days for 8 hours and not worry about being nice to customers.

I could hire one woman to work the counter and give happy endings and do the rest myself. It could be a good little business to retire slowly.
 

shiv

John
Administrator
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
13,743
its getting so hard to hire people to work let alone keep them there once they're hired.

lot of employers will pay you to learn a new a trade on the job now..that's what I'm doing. Quit my job in sales after 10+ years back during the pandemic. now I'm setting up and operating multiple CNC machines in a plant

did a complete 180 in trades and still making the same if not more with zero experience coming in.. just gotta take a leap of faith and trust yourself aka fake it till you make it..shit aint hard
Yeah this is great stuff I’m real happy for you.

It will prob never happen like this again in history where people can basically pick any career they want.
 
D

Deleted member 2886

Guest
She's ghosting me right now. She did lay out a pretty intricate framework for her ghosting, though. I'll give her credit. She claimed she had eye surgery on Friday and would be incapacitated for a few days during recovery. It's now Wednesday and I haven't heard from her. It's the ghosting part of this market that makes me pause and step away.
First off, I'll state upfront that I'm totally inexperienced with this threads subject matter and am not addressing that aspect at all, instead I seek to address the aforementioned "Ghosting" being experienced, and would like to explain that anyone who displays this specific type of irresponsible behaviour, most certainly ought to be recognized for what it demonstrates of their true character, -in the simplest terms: #Unreliability.

[#"Ghosting" is considered a type of dysfunctional -passive aggressive behaviour, and irregardless whether or not the individual, them self, is actually aware of this maladaptive behaviour, or whether it is intentional or not, the affects upon others can rapidly manifest as various degrees of psychological/emotional harm.
@ttyh -[ie: In this specific case you've described, it sorta seems to me that the subsequent effect resulting from her "Ghosting", may have elicited within your-self, possibly a subtly arising sense of uncertainty/confusion with regard this chick,...although I wish to be clear that this is merely my limited subjective opinion based on almost 0 adequate details. I just don't like it when people are potentially being on the receiving end of covertly abusive behaviours and thus am compelled to try and help people gain some understanding in order to independently protect themselves from the various, and often ever compounding, harmful resulting effects.]

😉👍
 

GarnetPild

Legendary
Founder
Joined
Dec 2, 2020
Messages
3,914
its getting so hard to hire people to work let alone keep them there once they're hired.

lot of employers will pay you to learn a new a trade on the job now..that's what I'm doing. Quit my job in sales after 10+ years back during the pandemic. now I'm setting up and operating multiple CNC machines in a plant

did a complete 180 in trades and still making the same if not more with zero experience coming in.. just gotta take a leap of faith and trust yourself aka fake it till you make it..shit aint hard


ezgif-1-aa2a801af4.gif
 

shiv

John
Administrator
Founder
Member
Joined
Dec 1, 2020
Messages
13,743
I know right...If people didn't take some kind of advantage out of this fake pandemic. They should have
I think there is a lot of good to come out of it if you took advantage of it rather than cowered in fear like a large cross section of the population. We are basically ground floor of building an entire new era. Prob a few more shitty years ahead, but once things stabilize again we are going to prosper. Of course we could have an apocalypse scenario, but no sense in betting on that. Now is about the best opportunity ever to start over
 

PawPower1981

I love those 👩🏻‍🦰
Founder
Joined
Jan 10, 2021
Messages
1,013
I’m trying to get fired and they won’t do it. Boss met me out in the field and said he had to meet up with his low performers and I was like ok.

He said I need to get my numbers up and I told him they aren’t going up because I don’t give a shit. I then told him his boss should have come out here so I could tell her the same.

30 minutes later he said he had to go and for me to call him if I needed anything

😂
 

Long Cat V2.0

Legendary
Joined
May 20, 2021
Messages
1,812
Had another one turn in papers today. It is getting ugly. And while everyone else gets stressed out about it I just think the incompetence that is created is hilarious.

But I guess the point being made is that businesses in the software/engineering field in Huntsville, the new greatest city in America, cannot hold on to anyone. And it seems to be happening everywhere and accelerating by the day. I almost just want to quit and find a new job to make it worse lol
My company has had a ton of turnover with engineers coming and going. We’ve had people retire on the early side, leave for cooler jobs at places like spacex and Facebook, leave for promotions, leave over vaccines, leave over wokeness, move to other locations, you name it.

My boss quit two weeks ago so now I get to do my job plus his job while dealing with a giant pile of reorganization and training young engineers. All I can do is hire another entry level engineer because that’s who we can get. But I have to pay him enough that I have to give some other people raises which sets off a chain reaction. Going through the process of getting raises approved has made me realize this is an issue across the country with various types of engineers.

It’s nuts. Can’t wait for my two week vacation in June. :ROFLMAO:
 
Top Bottom