Columbus or Indigenous People’s Day?

[BLatta12]

 

[rCW702]

Anyone that wants to call it Indigenous People's Day should be required to give all of their shit to native peoples.

 

[America 1st]

Me thinks Columbus city council is gonna have to rename the city Indigenous just to be safe.

 

[Jtrain80]

The one day that libs don't agree with mass migration.

 

[PeytonMooning]

I love how they pivot from Columbus, who was obviously flawed, to "indigenous peoples", which contain some of the most brutal cultures to ever exist. Slavery, genocide, rape, torture, kidnapping, and human sacrifice were common practice by "indigenous peoples." They also rarely offered quarter to captured combatants. Their brutality during war caused the French and Indian War which was a direct cause of the American Revolution. I would argue the Comanche were the most brutal culture to ever exist.

So in reality these people pivoting from Columbus to "indigenous peoples" aren't doing so because Columbus was brutal. They're doing so to virtue signal in an effort to gain political power. We can recognize the good and bad in all historical figures. The vast majority of them are simply the product of their time and environment.

 

[huffbuffer]

I love how they pivot from Columbus, who was obviously flawed, to "indigenous peoples", which contain some of the most brutal cultures to ever exist. Slavery, genocide, rape, torture, kidnapping, and human sacrifice were common practice by "indigenous peoples." They also rarely offered quarter to captured combatants. Their brutality during war caused the French and Indian War which was a direct cause of the American Revolution. I would argue the Comanche were the most brutal culture to ever exist.

So in reality these people pivoting from Columbus to "indigenous peoples" aren't doing so because Columbus was brutal. They're doing so to virtue signal in an effort to gain political power. We can recognize the good and bad in all historical figures. The vast majority of them are simply the product of their time and environment.

On one hand, we celebrate a single person that is known for being brutal. On the other hand, we are mad because a small subset of Native Americans tribes were brutal?

Regards
Patriot Huffbuffer

 

[PeytonMooning]

On one hand, we celebrate a single person that is known for being brutal. On the other hand, we are mad because a small subset of Native Americans tribes were brutal?

Regards
Patriot Huffbuffer

A small subset is a false statement. You can really go to just about every tribe or empire in the Americas and find practices that we would define as brutal. Natives during the colonial era would pick sides based on who they thought would win so they could take plunder. That was their main concern along with getting a good deal out of their efforts. And when you won with Natives on your side, it took everything in your power to keep them from killing those who surrendered. And the prisoners would have to give everything on them to the Natives, who would promptly leave once they had their plunder. Normal practice.

The "Five Civilized Tribes" enslaved Africans. Plains Indians were extremely brutal cultures. If your village was raided and everyone was killed, that was just the way the cookie crumbled. Normal practice.

Obviously the empires of Central and South America had brutal practices. Human sacrifice is the big one that you learn in school (Maya, Inca, Aztec). But human sacrifice was practiced by tribes in North America as well. The Pawnee had a ceremony where they burned a young girl alive called the Morning Star ceremony.

I'm a huge fan of Native American cultures. It's really a fascinating subject. Celebrating Columbus isn't about his personal achievements, it's more about two sections of the world being brought together for good. From Columbus forward no longer would two sides of the world be cut off from one another. There's obviously bad that comes along with that, but also a lot of good too. History doesn't care about your feelings, it happened and you can acknowledge it or you can do your best to change the narrative, but the actual events won't ever change.

I could go on about Native Americans for hours. Let's just say if you lived in modern day East Texas in 1835, you would hate them with the fire of a thousand Suns, and they would hate you with equal fervor. The only reason we don't look back at them with hatred now is because the threat of them slaughtering you and your entire family in the middle of the night no longer exists.

 

[GarnetPild]

I love how they pivot from Columbus, who was obviously flawed, to "indigenous peoples", which contain some of the most brutal cultures to ever exist. Slavery, genocide, rape, torture, kidnapping, and human sacrifice were common practice by "indigenous peoples." They also rarely offered quarter to captured combatants. Their brutality during war caused the French and Indian War which was a direct cause of the American Revolution. I would argue the Comanche were the most brutal culture to ever exist.

So in reality these people pivoting from Columbus to "indigenous peoples" aren't doing so because Columbus was brutal. They're doing so to virtue signal in an effort to gain political power. We can recognize the good and bad in all historical figures. The vast majority of them are simply the product of their time and environment.

Yeah, anyone who thinks the "indigenous people" were peaceful needs to just to some minimal reading to realize the truth. There were many tribes of different cultures, but war, rape, slavery, etc were commonplace between them.

The Comanches had some really creative and horrible ways to torture people they captured. Protecting settlers, and ending the brutality by killing the Comanches is how the Texas Rangers came to be, back in the mid 1800's.

If not for the Rangers, there may not have been a Colt firearms company. Samuel Colt's 1st revolver had not been successful, but he got back in business making his ginormous Colt Walker (at Eli Whitney's factory), at the request of the Rangers. The Comanches were so good on horseback with a bow & arrow, that the single shot weapons were not effective. 2-5 shot .44 Colts turned the tables nicely. The rest is, of course, history.

Next time you shoot your Colt, know that it probably wouldn't exist if not for the Texas Rangers and the Comanche Indians.

 

[denn]

I call it Monday