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Master crypto thread / America 1st was right again / Treasury to crackdown on “stablecoins”

America 1st

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Why are these relevant to you? Fiat money has scams and bad actors, cars enable bad actors, the internet enables scams and bad actors, WiFi enables bad actors, etc.
Just shows that there really is no positives no crypto. Only negatives unlike those other things you just listed.
 

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Just shows that there really is no positives no crypto. Only negatives unlike those other things you just listed.
I guess you think love and peace is negative? That’s what bitcoin represents.

No need for war over it like other metals and currency.. or indebt other countries in the dollar, no Triffen delima.
 

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I guess you think love and peace is negative? That’s what bitcoin represents.

No need for war over it like other metals and currency.. or indebt other countries in the dollar, no Triffen delima.
I like bitcoin and what it represents. But I just have this feeling that the establishment and the federal reserve are going to do their best to try to destroy it. I hope I’m wrong
 

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I like bitcoin and what it represents. But I just have this feeling that the establishment and the federal reserve are going to do their best to try to destroy it. I hope I’m wrong
Could be,, who knows, but when there’s news of people in higher up places that have some, banks and institutions are in it… not sure how well it can be stopped.
bitcoin overnight turned the image around of El Salvador… all peaceful.. and investments are going to happen. Worse case If fed outlaws it in the US, then buy land in el Salvador or other South American countries that will take it for payment.
 

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Could be,, who knows, but when there’s news of people in higher up places that have some, banks and institutions are in it… not sure how well it can be stopped.
bitcoin overnight turned the image around of El Salvador… all peaceful.. and investments are going to happen. Worse case If fed outlaws it in the US, then buy land in el Salvador or other South American countries that will take it for payment.
I’m with you 100%. I just know that the establishment and the Fed like control and this is something they cannot control
 

America 1st

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I guess you think love and peace is negative? That’s what bitcoin represents.

No need for war over it like other metals and currency.. or indebt other countries in the dollar, no Triffen delima.
It doesn't represent any of that IYAM

I could see wars and riots started because of Bitcoin and cryptos though
 

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I’m with you 100%. I just know that the establishment and the Fed like control and this is something they cannot control
They already control it.

They allow it and the SEC regulates it.

The better question to ask yourself and why do the central bankers and establishment want Bitcoin and cryptos.

Why are we seeing so many ads on the mainstream propaganda channels and over 50% of the population adopting this product so quickly?
 

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BTC - this thread usually gets bumped when it’s selling off, but rarely when it’s rallying.

China banned it nearly two months ago, according to some that should have been the death blow.

it sold off almost settling the 25k or 50k first bet, but it didn’t quite get to 25k. This morning, it’s climbing almost back to $40k

BTC and cryptos not going anywhere
 

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Yeah, Tether is a big question mark, and to be honest I have not taken the time to fully understand it. It may be one of those things that needs to burn though. It may cause temporary disruption if it happens, but in the long term BTC may be better off without it.
 

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Yeah, Tether is a big question mark, and to be honest I have not taken the time to fully understand it. It may be one of those things that needs to burn though. It may cause temporary disruption if it happens, but in the long term BTC may be better off without it.
Yeah no doubt.

As many of these coins as we can get rid of is a win.
 

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Buried in the still-unreleased bipartisan infrastructure package is a sweeping crackdown on cryptocurrency transactions that could generate significant tax revenue for the government and major anxiety in a financial technology industry that thrived during the coronavirus pandemic.
Lawmakers want people facilitating trades in Bitcoin and other digital assets to be subject to reporting rules similar to those governing the sale of stocks and other securities: Brokers would be required to report things like how much people paid for cryptocurrencies.

The proposal is alarming many in the industry, who are expressing fear of being ambushed with a host of new rules they could be stuck with for years.
They see the new reporting requirements as potentially damaging the economic viability of cryptocurrency markets, which have seen a rapid expansion in new users during the pandemic.
Given how much new tax revenue could be at stake and the amount of progress that has been made on the bill, many doubt the language will be eliminated, so they are focused on efforts to make what they see as improvements.
The lead GOP negotiators on the bipartisan infrastructure legislation, Sen. Rob Portman and Sen. Susan Collins, arrive to speak to reporters.
CONGRESS

Bipartisan infrastructure deal sails through first Senate vote


BY MARIANNE LEVINE AND BURGESS EVERETT
Industry groups including the Blockchain Association, Coin Center and the Association for Digital Asset Markets outlined their opposition to the requirements in statements on Thursday, taking particular note of provisions in the draft version that could lead to targeting of individual users.
Perianne Boring, founder and president of the Chamber of Digital Commerce, said in an interview on Friday that her group proposed amending the bill language to “tighten the definition” of what constitutes brokering activity to exclude artificial intelligence platforms or business transmitters.
“The idea of shoving this into a congressional mandate or as a as a revenue-generator for something completely unrelated, is not the preferred way or the right way to get the best policy,” Boring said, noting that ADAM and others have repeatedly asked for more guidance from the IRS on how to enforce existing laws.
ADAM's CEO, Michelle Bond, said “it is critically important for the industry to be at the table to provide technical assistance for proposals of this magnitude."
Tax compliance is considered a major problem with cryptocurrencies, and lawmakers are hungry for the $28 billion their proposals are said to raise to help finance their big-ticket spending plans.
The issue is complicated, potentially affecting banking and securities law. It also crosses jurisdictions in Congress, from the tax committees to banking panels.
The move to boost cryptocurrency reporting requirements comes after Republicans killed a plan to boost IRS enforcement by greatly expanding the agency’s budget — something Democrats are expected to tackle in a separate tax-reconciliation package.
IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig has repeatedly asked lawmakers for more power to improve tax compliance in the cryptocurrency industry, where many market participants are unaware of their obligations or are outright cheating.
Though industry officials vow to fight the proposals, they’ll likely face an uphill battle.
The plan is headed for a quick vote in the Senate, and lawmakers will be loath to blow a hole in the infrastructure proposal after struggling for weeks over how to defray its cost of the plan.
The fact that few lawmakers understand cryptocurrencies and their relationship to taxes means that any lobbying effort will require a major educational campaign. Congress’s most expert member on the issue, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), happens to be one of the main authors of the broader infrastructure package.
Much of the proposal is designed to replicate the reporting regime imposed when people sell stocks in companies like Apple or Ford.
Brokers would be required to report people’s so-called basis, or the price at which they bought cryptocurrencies, as well as their gross proceeds — which would make calculating their tax bills much easier. Studies have long shown that when people know someone else is independently reporting their income to the IRS, they are far less likely to skirt tax obligations.
Lawmakers also want to include anti-money laundering provisions sought by the Treasury Department that would require transactions worth more than $10,000 to be reported to the government.
Behind the scenes, lawmakers have debated language that would expand the definition of broker to include decentralized exchanges, without traditional middle men, and peer-to-peer transactions, though some say the language of the proposal is broad enough to sweep in others like cryptocurrency miners.
“The extension of the definition of ‘broker’ is a surprise,” said Lisa Zarlenga, a partner at the firm Steptoe & Johnson LLP who works on cryptocurrency tax issues.
Another source of contention: provisions that could potentially go beyond cryptocurrencies to other types of digital assets like non-fungible tokens.
The Treasury Department had already been working on rules to tighten reporting requirements on brokers like Coinbase, but having Congress’s imprimatur would help head off any potential legal challenges to the agency’s authority to issue new regulations.
Industry officials are vowing a fight.
Blockchain Association Executive Director Kristin Smith expressed frustration with the last-minute scramble to write the legislation, saying it could impose new requirements on “all sorts of different actors in the ecosystem.”
“We think it would have the effect of potentially driving a lot of these actors and businesses and individuals involved in crypto overseas and really stifling the innovation in this space here in the United States,” she said.
Though the plan is said to raise $28 billion, that’s highly uncertain and the estimate immediately raised some eyebrows.
While Congress’s budget forecasters can predict with confidence the cost of tax changes that are similar to ones lawmakers have made before — such as expanding the child tax credit — they invariably have a harder time for more novel policy proposals.
Cryptocurrencies present a particularly difficult challenge because their valuations can fluctuate wildly, it’s hard to know how many people are buying and selling the assets, and forecasters have to make guesstimates about the tax rates they likely pay.
 

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Really is time to do away with them completely.



 

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Really is time to do away with them completely.



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